Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks

Rell&Gold · 09-22-2019, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Positives:

I'm positive we've got to have better play from the QB position; Bridgewater had opportunities and just can't get it done...

Ramczyk and McCoy each had penalties, but they also made some impressive adjustments in-game today without Drew's leadership...

It's killing me we just extended Michael Thomas, who played tough, bravely today and we can't get the ball downfield to him...

Jared Cook was a waste of money and I wouldn't be surprised to sign a FA or see Dan Arnold promoted if he can make the weight...

Eli Apple atoned in a big way with his strip-fumble today; the front four, including the rotation was huge today, huge...

If the Kicking game handles the snap exchanges, doesn't muff a punt - they're Special Team Unit of the Week in the NFL...

I'll say it and I was wrong for years - Sean Payton ain't sh*t without Drew Brees - Brees has been worth every penny we've ever paid him...

He almost blew out Seattle at home by 22 without Brees. Where's the logic? Can't remember last time Saints won in Seattle

Halo · 09-22-2019, 09:19 PM

This really wasn't the same Seahawks team. That said it's still very hard to win in Seattle. Their offense was kind of a mess and playcall was sketchy at times. Their Coaching decisions and risks they took were at times illogical. Maybe luck has run out on Pete Carroll?

That said, I was impressed with the Saints team effort. Every squad scored - offense, defense, special teams. We made adjustments in-game, tuned the offense to play to Bridgewater's strengths and I think the Seahawk's and their fans were probably stunned. Although the penalties still happened, I felt we played a very methodical game and got the most out of players. When players failed to perform, we stopped relying on them.

Halo · 09-22-2019, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.

FYI, in 2010 moments after winning SuperBowl 44, there were people complaining that we didn't score enough points in the game and complained that we didn't throw the ball enough.... after winning the SuperBowl. Just sayin'.

jeanpierre · 09-22-2019, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

He almost blew out Seattle at home by 22 without Brees. Where's the logic? Can't remember last time Saints won in Seattle

You really think that Seattle team will make the playoffs as they are now?

jeanpierre · 09-22-2019, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Romo mentioned it ...

At RT, Ryan is as close to elite as you can get.

Bet Romo wishes he had a Ryan Ramczyk protecting him...

jeanpierre · 09-22-2019, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.

How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat...

jeanpierre · 09-22-2019, 09:50 PM

Keeping it real, only way this is better if he's sporting the Gordon Minshew 70s look...

AK did it all today - great performance, great attitude...

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SaintGnome · 09-22-2019, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to put them away, keep the foot on the gas, and the last foot that boards the plane is the one coming off their collective throat...

So what is an acceptable ending score? A 2 score win, after garbage time, in one of the hardest places to win on the road isn't good enough, what will make you happy?

saintfan · 09-22-2019, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat...

I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader.

neugey · 09-22-2019, 10:02 PM

For those feeling lackluster about Teddy, we almost certainly had to play it close to the vest, considering the early lead, the crowd and the wet weather. Next week when we are home and it's dry, we will then look to be more assertive with Teddy throwing. Very well-coached game today - in fact, we outcoached Carroll today especially considering their bad time/score management. But I guess if I had a nose that needed to be stitched I might not be coaching perfectly either LOL.

09-22-2019, 09:13 PM	#21
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by jeanpierre Positives: I'm positive we've got to have better play from the QB position; Bridgewater had opportunities and just can't get it done... Ramczyk and McCoy each had penalties, but they also made some impressive adjustments in-game today without Drew's leadership... It's killing me we just extended Michael Thomas, who played tough, bravely today and we can't get the ball downfield to him... Jared Cook was a waste of money and I wouldn't be surprised to sign a FA or see Dan Arnold promoted if he can make the weight... Eli Apple atoned in a big way with his strip-fumble today; the front four, including the rotation was huge today, huge... If the Kicking game handles the snap exchanges, doesn't muff a punt - they're Special Team Unit of the Week in the NFL... I'll say it and I was wrong for years - Sean Payton ain't sh*t without Drew Brees - Brees has been worth every penny we've ever paid him... He almost blew out Seattle at home by 22 without Brees. Where's the logic? Can't remember last time Saints won in Seattle SaintsBro, K Major and SaintGnome like this.

09-22-2019, 09:19 PM	#22
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,207 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks This really wasn't the same Seahawks team. That said it's still very hard to win in Seattle. Their offense was kind of a mess and playcall was sketchy at times. Their Coaching decisions and risks they took were at times illogical. Maybe luck has run out on Pete Carroll? That said, I was impressed with the Saints team effort. Every squad scored - offense, defense, special teams. We made adjustments in-game, tuned the offense to play to Bridgewater's strengths and I think the Seahawk's and their fans were probably stunned. Although the penalties still happened, I felt we played a very methodical game and got the most out of players. When players failed to perform, we stopped relying on them. saintfan and leilung like this.
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09-22-2019, 09:29 PM	#23
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,207 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by SaintGnome I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy. FYI, in 2010 moments after winning SuperBowl 44, there were people complaining that we didn't score enough points in the game and complained that we didn't throw the ball enough.... after winning the SuperBowl. Just sayin'. jnormand, leilung and SaintGnome like this.

09-22-2019, 09:34 PM	#24
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by Rell&Gold He almost blew out Seattle at home by 22 without Brees. Where's the logic? Can't remember last time Saints won in Seattle You really think that Seattle team will make the playoffs as they are now?

09-22-2019, 09:37 PM	#25
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by K Major Romo mentioned it ... At RT, Ryan is as close to elite as you can get. Bet Romo wishes he had a Ryan Ramczyk protecting him... SmashMouth and dam1953 like this.

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09-22-2019, 09:46 PM	#26
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by SaintGnome I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy. How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game... Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game... We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat...
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09-22-2019, 09:50 PM	#27
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Keeping it real, only way this is better if he's sporting the Gordon Minshew 70s look... AK did it all today - great performance, great attitude... Twitter jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

09-22-2019, 09:51 PM	#28
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by jeanpierre How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game... Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game... We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to put them away, keep the foot on the gas, and the last foot that boards the plane is the one coming off their collective throat... So what is an acceptable ending score? A 2 score win, after garbage time, in one of the hardest places to win on the road isn't good enough, what will make you happy? jnormand likes this.

09-22-2019, 09:57 PM	#29
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by jeanpierre How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game... Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game... We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat... I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader. jnormand, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

09-22-2019, 10:02 PM	#30
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,591 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks For those feeling lackluster about Teddy, we almost certainly had to play it close to the vest, considering the early lead, the crowd and the wet weather. Next week when we are home and it's dry, we will then look to be more assertive with Teddy throwing. Very well-coached game today - in fact, we outcoached Carroll today especially considering their bad time/score management. But I guess if I had a nose that needed to be stitched I might not be coaching perfectly either LOL.