Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks

saintfan · 09-22-2019, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat...

I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader.

jeanpierre · 09-22-2019, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

So what is an acceptable ending score? A 2 score win, after garbage time, in one of the hardest places to win on the road isn't good enough, what will make you happy?

Originally Posted by saintfan

I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader.

I watched the game, I've rewatched the game - Lots of meat left on the bone; Bridgewater is just not adjusting to the game fast enough.

Two pt conversion, Carr was open in the endzone, Teddy hastily pulls it down and runs tentatively till he's stopped...

Several times there were opportunities for back-shoulder throws and Teddy is just not taking those throws.

From the one foot line at the goal, he held the ball down at this waist instead of quickly extending it over the goal line...

Most of the first half the offense was sluggish getting in, out of the huddle and the team didn't look like they were on the snap count...

In the first half, before the scoring screen pass by Kamara, Bridgewater completed only one pass over 10 yards, a 14 yd completion to M. Thomas...

On the day, Bridgewater was 19 of 27 for 177 PaYds, that total PaYds includes a 29 PaYd PaTD on a screen pass (again short att) to Kamara who made a tremendous run to get the score...

That's less than ten yards a completion, that's not gonna get it. Rookies are playing better than that and they don't have AK or Can'tGuardMike...

Look, I was thrilled with the win, ask my krewe who was with me today - but without the Saints DST scoring 13 pts, we lose 27-20...

No, Bridgewater isn't getting it done, he must play better against conference rival, playoff implications game vs Dallas...

st thomas · 09-22-2019, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.

What’s this y’all crap we win as a team and lose as one. If your looking for a win or a loss why do we even have this site ahhh yes its to discuss and share our feelings and observe how we need to get better. Even if it’s harsh criticism you get high praise if u excel. When u come hear and bash us boys or girls ur bashing the saints too.

bro

SaintGnome · 09-22-2019, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

What’s this y’all crap we win as a team and lose as one. If your looking for a win or a loss why do we even have this site ahhh yes its to discuss and share our feelings and observe how we need to get better. Even if it’s harsh criticism you get high praise if u excel. When u come hear and bash us boys or girls ur bashing the saints too. bro

Fair enough, I don't like it, but free speech, but I stand behind MY opinion

st thomas · 09-22-2019, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Fair enough, I don't like it, but free speech, but I stand behind MY opinion

Good man

Halo · 09-22-2019, 09:19 PM

This really wasn't the same Seahawks team. That said it's still very hard to win in Seattle. Their offense was kind of a mess and playcall was sketchy at times. Their Coaching decisions and risks they took were at times illogical. Maybe luck has run out on Pete Carroll?

That said, I was impressed with the Saints team effort. Every squad scored - offense, defense, special teams. We made adjustments in-game, tuned the offense to play to Bridgewater's strengths and I think the Seahawk's and their fans were probably stunned. Although the penalties still happened, I felt we played a very methodical game and got the most out of players. When players failed to perform, we stopped relying on them.

jeanpierre · 09-22-2019, 09:50 PM

Keeping it real, only way this is better if he's sporting the Gordon Minshew 70s look...

AK did it all today - great performance, great attitude...

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neugey · 09-22-2019, 10:02 PM

For those feeling lackluster about Teddy, we almost certainly had to play it close to the vest, considering the early lead, the crowd and the wet weather. Next week when we are home and it's dry, we will then look to be more assertive with Teddy throwing. Very well-coached game today - in fact, we outcoached Carroll today especially considering their bad time/score management. But I guess if I had a nose that needed to be stitched I might not be coaching perfectly either LOL.

jnormand · 09-22-2019, 10:21 PM

Yeah what's with the hate on Teddy? The guy did what he needed to do and did enough to get the W. He played smart and a bit conservative. I'm with a couple other posters who believe that he'll just get better and more confident.

This game was not nearly as close as the scoreboard.

Defense did great. They harrassed Wilson all game long. Most other QBs in the NFL would've been dropped multiple times and probably thrown at least a pick or 2 with that pressure.

Secondary was a little loose at times but played good enough to win.

This team will continue to improve.

st thomas · 09-22-2019, 10:36 PM

I was a believer that teddy could pull this off. Now he can get a lot better and has to , WHO WANTS TO BEAT THEM COWBOYS.

09-22-2019, 09:57 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by jeanpierre How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game... Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game... We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat... I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader. jnormand, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

09-22-2019, 11:52 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by SaintGnome So what is an acceptable ending score? A 2 score win, after garbage time, in one of the hardest places to win on the road isn't good enough, what will make you happy? Originally Posted by saintfan I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader. I watched the game, I've rewatched the game - Lots of meat left on the bone; Bridgewater is just not adjusting to the game fast enough. Two pt conversion, Carr was open in the endzone, Teddy hastily pulls it down and runs tentatively till he's stopped... Several times there were opportunities for back-shoulder throws and Teddy is just not taking those throws. From the one foot line at the goal, he held the ball down at this waist instead of quickly extending it over the goal line... Most of the first half the offense was sluggish getting in, out of the huddle and the team didn't look like they were on the snap count... In the first half, before the scoring screen pass by Kamara, Bridgewater completed only one pass over 10 yards, a 14 yd completion to M. Thomas... On the day, Bridgewater was 19 of 27 for 177 PaYds, that total PaYds includes a 29 PaYd PaTD on a screen pass (again short att) to Kamara who made a tremendous run to get the score... That's less than ten yards a completion, that's not gonna get it. Rookies are playing better than that and they don't have AK or Can'tGuardMike... Look, I was thrilled with the win, ask my krewe who was with me today - but without the Saints DST scoring 13 pts, we lose 27-20... No, Bridgewater isn't getting it done, he must play better against conference rival, playoff implications game vs Dallas... SmashMouth likes this.
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09-22-2019, 10:21 PM	#3
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by SaintGnome I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy. What’s this y’all crap we win as a team and lose as one. If your looking for a win or a loss why do we even have this site ahhh yes its to discuss and share our feelings and observe how we need to get better. Even if it’s harsh criticism you get high praise if u excel. When u come hear and bash us boys or girls ur bashing the saints too. bro

09-22-2019, 10:33 PM	#4
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by st thomas What’s this y’all crap we win as a team and lose as one. If your looking for a win or a loss why do we even have this site ahhh yes its to discuss and share our feelings and observe how we need to get better. Even if it’s harsh criticism you get high praise if u excel. When u come hear and bash us boys or girls ur bashing the saints too. bro Fair enough, I don't like it, but free speech, but I stand behind MY opinion jeanpierre and st thomas like this.

09-22-2019, 10:33 PM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by SaintGnome Fair enough, I don't like it, but free speech, but I stand behind MY opinion Good man

09-22-2019, 09:19 PM	#6
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,924 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks This really wasn't the same Seahawks team. That said it's still very hard to win in Seattle. Their offense was kind of a mess and playcall was sketchy at times. Their Coaching decisions and risks they took were at times illogical. Maybe luck has run out on Pete Carroll? That said, I was impressed with the Saints team effort. Every squad scored - offense, defense, special teams. We made adjustments in-game, tuned the offense to play to Bridgewater's strengths and I think the Seahawk's and their fans were probably stunned. Although the penalties still happened, I felt we played a very methodical game and got the most out of players. When players failed to perform, we stopped relying on them. saintfan and leilung like this.
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09-22-2019, 09:50 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Keeping it real, only way this is better if he's sporting the Gordon Minshew 70s look... AK did it all today - great performance, great attitude... Twitter jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

09-22-2019, 10:02 PM	#8
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks For those feeling lackluster about Teddy, we almost certainly had to play it close to the vest, considering the early lead, the crowd and the wet weather. Next week when we are home and it's dry, we will then look to be more assertive with Teddy throwing. Very well-coached game today - in fact, we outcoached Carroll today especially considering their bad time/score management. But I guess if I had a nose that needed to be stitched I might not be coaching perfectly either LOL.

09-22-2019, 10:21 PM	#9
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,790	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Yeah what's with the hate on Teddy? The guy did what he needed to do and did enough to get the W. He played smart and a bit conservative. I'm with a couple other posters who believe that he'll just get better and more confident. This game was not nearly as close as the scoreboard. Defense did great. They harrassed Wilson all game long. Most other QBs in the NFL would've been dropped multiple times and probably thrown at least a pick or 2 with that pressure. Secondary was a little loose at times but played good enough to win. This team will continue to improve. nola_swammi, leilung, Garry42 and 1 others like this.

09-22-2019, 10:36 PM	#10
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks I was a believer that teddy could pull this off. Now he can get a lot better and has to , WHO WANTS TO BEAT THEM COWBOYS. Danno and neugey like this.