Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks

K Major · 09-23-2019, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If you're gonna spend that kind of draft capital, Jalen Ramsey is likely getting out of JAX...

Only possible complication is Payton having some communal loyalty to Doug Marrone, but if we'd had Ramsey yesterday, that'd been huge...

Ok, well see what it would take for Ramsey. Last report is that he could potentially be out with the "flu"

all week.

Like Oak pointed out earlier, we have been lucky on those boundaries more than good. I don't trust Apple Eli and PJ is just getting burned all over the field.

K Major · 09-23-2019, 06:58 AM

No one gonna mention Davenport so I will ...

Pressure all day on Wilson (Houdini), 7 tackles and held his own against a very good LT. Totally disruptive but it won't show on the highlights because Wilson has the ability to escape like no other.

Can't wait to see how Marcus does against Tyrin Smith in the dome.

Budsdrinker · 09-23-2019, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

No one gonna mention Davenport so I will ...

Pressure all day on Wilson (Houdini), 7 tackles and held his own against a very good LT. Totally disruptive but it won't show on the highlights because Wilson has the ability to escape like no other.

Can't wait to see how Marcus does against Tyrin Smith in the dome.

Davenport has played well all 3 weeks. Before yesterday's game, fans didn't notice him because he was doing the dirty work. He was occupying double teams so others could make the play. Some fans only notice sacks and TFL.
Taking on double teams helps the rest of the guys look better.

SmashMouth · 09-23-2019, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

No one gonna mention Davenport so I will ...

Pressure all day on Wilson (Houdini), 7 tackles and held his own against a very good LT. Totally disruptive but it won't show on the highlights because Wilson has the ability to escape like no other.

Can't wait to see how Marcus does against Tyrin Smith in the dome.

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Davenport has played well all 3 weeks. Before yesterday's game, fans didn't notice him because he was doing the dirty work. He was occupying double teams so others could make the play. Some fans only notice sacks and TFL.
Taking on double teams helps the rest of the guys look better.

PFF has noticed.

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st thomas · 09-23-2019, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

PFF has noticed.

https://twitter.com/PFF_Saints/statu...94186633388032

Saw Dav in a lot of piles , he’s in there

ChrisXVI · 09-23-2019, 07:31 AM

Just looking at the snap counts from yesterday and Latavius Murray only played one more snap than our fullback Zach Line.

jeanpierre · 09-23-2019, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Just looking at the snap counts from yesterday and Latavius Murray only played one more snap than our fullback Zach Line.

None of our supposed key free agents have contributed well so far: you'd have a better chance of finding TE Jared Cook on Borden's Milk Carton...

Murray hasn't shared the load at all with Kamara, and that's exacerbated with how well Ingram is lighting it up with the Ravens...

Nick Easton has already been inactive, and we could've had better in Senio Kelemete had we kicked in an extra guarantee'd $2.5mil total and had him for the playoffs the two previous seasons to relieve Peat...

And we got better substitution play from Luke McCown for far less than the $7mil we overpaid for Checkdown Teddy; it's gonna be a white-knuckle ride till Drew hopefully gets back...

K Major · 09-23-2019, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

None of our supposed key free agents have contributed well so far: you'd have a better chance of finding TE Jared Cook on Borden's Milk Carton...

Murray hasn't shared the load at all with Kamara, and that's exacerbated with how well Ingram is lighting it up with the Ravens...

Nick Easton has already been inactive, and we could've had better in Senio Kelemete had we kicked in an extra guarantee'd $2.5mil total and had him for the playoffs the two previous seasons to relieve Peat...

And we got better substitution play from Luke McCown for far less than the $7mil we overpaid for Checkdown Teddy; it's gonna be a white-knuckle ride till Drew hopefully gets back...

And in saying all of that, the Saints still found a way to win on the road in a tough environment.

We are trending upward

.

jeanpierre · 09-23-2019, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

And in saying all of that, the Saints still found a way to win on the road in a tough environment.

We are trending upward .

Exactly my point - we're finally getting terrific pass rush; we've got some honest, flawed, secondary coverage; we've got a terrific kicker; we've got a dependable All-Pro Right Tackle and Running Back; don't waste it...

Cruize · 09-23-2019, 08:25 AM

-Big win!
-Kamara is the truth. I would like to see Murray, Washington or even Line take the meaningless hand offs into the stacked line to end a game that's already been decided. Why expose Kamara to the hits?
-Morestead is the truth.
-Game changing punt return for a TD by Harris.
-Davis is Dome Patrol worthy.
-Great effort and run defense.
-Special teams all around with plays by Hardee, Robertson and Gray.
-Teddy looked tight to begin with but plays well when he just cuts it loose.
-The Saints have won two games they easily could have lost. Good sign.

-No impact so far from Cook.
-The Saints should look for a #2 WR of even average quality before the trade deadline. Completely lacking right now.
-Wilson is the real deal. But, you can't pressure/contain him with four guys and you can't just let him sit in the pocket with all day to throw. The blitz packages and covering behind them has to improve moving forward.
-Is there no one else available to run down on punts besides Hill? I get the opposing team has to prepare/be aware of fakes. But, I just believe it's more important he stays upright until Brees gets back.

09-23-2019, 08:37 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by jeanpierre If you're gonna spend that kind of draft capital, Jalen Ramsey is likely getting out of JAX... Only possible complication is Payton having some communal loyalty to Doug Marrone, but if we'd had Ramsey yesterday, that'd been huge... Ok, well see what it would take for Ramsey. Last report is that he could potentially be out with the "flu" all week. Like Oak pointed out earlier, we have been lucky on those boundaries more than good. I don't trust Apple Eli and PJ is just getting burned all over the field. Rell&Gold likes this.

09-23-2019, 10:01 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by K Major No one gonna mention Davenport so I will ... Pressure all day on Wilson (Houdini), 7 tackles and held his own against a very good LT. Totally disruptive but it won't show on the highlights because Wilson has the ability to escape like no other. Can't wait to see how Marcus does against Tyrin Smith in the dome. Davenport has played well all 3 weeks. Before yesterday's game, fans didn't notice him because he was doing the dirty work. He was occupying double teams so others could make the play. Some fans only notice sacks and TFL. Taking on double teams helps the rest of the guys look better. leilung, cmike, K Major and 1 others like this.

09-23-2019, 10:08 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,138 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by K Major No one gonna mention Davenport so I will ... Pressure all day on Wilson (Houdini), 7 tackles and held his own against a very good LT. Totally disruptive but it won't show on the highlights because Wilson has the ability to escape like no other. Can't wait to see how Marcus does against Tyrin Smith in the dome. Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Davenport has played well all 3 weeks. Before yesterday's game, fans didn't notice him because he was doing the dirty work. He was occupying double teams so others could make the play. Some fans only notice sacks and TFL. Taking on double teams helps the rest of the guys look better. PFF has noticed. Twitter st thomas and K Major like this.

09-23-2019, 10:47 AM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by SmashMouth PFF has noticed. https://twitter.com/PFF_Saints/statu...94186633388032 Saw Dav in a lot of piles , he’s in there

09-23-2019, 07:31 AM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Just looking at the snap counts from yesterday and Latavius Murray only played one more snap than our fullback Zach Line.

09-23-2019, 06:58 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks No one gonna mention Davenport so I will ... Pressure all day on Wilson (Houdini), 7 tackles and held his own against a very good LT. Totally disruptive but it won't show on the highlights because Wilson has the ability to escape like no other. Can't wait to see how Marcus does against Tyrin Smith in the dome. Crusader likes this.

09-23-2019, 08:12 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Just looking at the snap counts from yesterday and Latavius Murray only played one more snap than our fullback Zach Line. None of our supposed key free agents have contributed well so far: you'd have a better chance of finding TE Jared Cook on Borden's Milk Carton... Murray hasn't shared the load at all with Kamara, and that's exacerbated with how well Ingram is lighting it up with the Ravens... Nick Easton has already been inactive, and we could've had better in Senio Kelemete had we kicked in an extra guarantee'd $2.5mil total and had him for the playoffs the two previous seasons to relieve Peat... And we got better substitution play from Luke McCown for far less than the $7mil we overpaid for Checkdown Teddy; it's gonna be a white-knuckle ride till Drew hopefully gets back... SmashMouth likes this.
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09-23-2019, 08:32 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by jeanpierre None of our supposed key free agents have contributed well so far: you'd have a better chance of finding TE Jared Cook on Borden's Milk Carton... Murray hasn't shared the load at all with Kamara, and that's exacerbated with how well Ingram is lighting it up with the Ravens... Nick Easton has already been inactive, and we could've had better in Senio Kelemete had we kicked in an extra guarantee'd $2.5mil total and had him for the playoffs the two previous seasons to relieve Peat... And we got better substitution play from Luke McCown for far less than the $7mil we overpaid for Checkdown Teddy; it's gonna be a white-knuckle ride till Drew hopefully gets back... And in saying all of that, the Saints still found a way to win on the road in a tough environment. We are trending upward .

09-23-2019, 11:14 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks Originally Posted by K Major And in saying all of that, the Saints still found a way to win on the road in a tough environment. We are trending upward . Exactly my point - we're finally getting terrific pass rush; we've got some honest, flawed, secondary coverage; we've got a terrific kicker; we've got a dependable All-Pro Right Tackle and Running Back; don't waste it...

09-23-2019, 08:25 AM	#10
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks -Big win! -Kamara is the truth. I would like to see Murray, Washington or even Line take the meaningless hand offs into the stacked line to end a game that's already been decided. Why expose Kamara to the hits? -Morestead is the truth. -Game changing punt return for a TD by Harris. -Davis is Dome Patrol worthy. -Great effort and run defense. -Special teams all around with plays by Hardee, Robertson and Gray. -Teddy looked tight to begin with but plays well when he just cuts it loose. -The Saints have won two games they easily could have lost. Good sign. -No impact so far from Cook. -The Saints should look for a #2 WR of even average quality before the trade deadline. Completely lacking right now. -Wilson is the real deal. But, you can't pressure/contain him with four guys and you can't just let him sit in the pocket with all day to throw. The blitz packages and covering behind them has to improve moving forward. -Is there no one else available to run down on punts besides Hill? I get the opposing team has to prepare/be aware of fakes. But, I just believe it's more important he stays upright until Brees gets back. SmashMouth and SaintsBro like this.
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