Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever

Rsanders24 · 09-25-2019, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I understand that Ingram's agent threw out a ridiculously high figure and we didn't try to renegotiate. We signed Murray and Ingram fired his agent immediately afterwards. You could tell by his body language that he was deflated about going to the Ravens and wanted to be part of this team moving forward. Ingram didn't quit on us. His agent screwed him. I wish him only the very best.

Thats is similar to what I heard also. We offered 4mil/yr and His agent threw a ridiculously high number out there...close to 7mil/year. After that we didn’t try to counter and that was that. Apparently the agent was lying about the offers that Ingram had and he was trying to use it as leverage.

Rugby Saint II · 09-25-2019, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Thanks! I have a much clearer picture now, I didn't realize he jetted his agent after.... (did he? I cant find it anywhere in the news)

This is my take: Mark started to believe his own hype, his agent believed it as well and they both went all in thinking he was irreplaceable. That body language can be seen walking away from every table in Vegas, someone went all in and lost. I will assume he terminated his agent because his agent did what an agent does, hypes you up and goes for big money.

This was Ingram's 3rd contract and he should have known better than to get blind sided.

A little history.. Mark Ingram terminated his agent in 2011 just before the draft. In April of 2018 he replaced his agent again.. Now you say a third time..?

Then there is this... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/vide...hose-baltimore

Touché Amigo!

westbankdaze · 09-25-2019, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I agree it was a mistake but from what it sounds like Ingram went off on his own. He probably liked the chance to be a featured back.

This. Ingram made a big mistake.

skymike · 09-27-2019, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

What did he get... $500,000? Would anybody leave BlackandGold and return to SaintsReport for $500,000?

LOL I'd want 5M guaranteed + an escape clause + input on which other posters get cut.

CHA_CHING · 09-29-2019, 03:16 PM

Ingram sure is helping his team today by fumbling the ball leading to the giant momentum shift when Baltimore was down only by 7 points.

Don't know how many times I have to tell y'all this - running backs don't matter when your QB can't play at an above average level. See Barry Sanders, the GOAT RB for many people. How many playoff games did the Lions win with his amazing play? Walter Payton's one ring came in the ONLY season the Bears have an above average ANY/A and decent passing game.

Ingram isn't going to lead his team to any playoff wins cause that is simply not how it works. Speaking of playoffs, what did he do for us in any of his playoff games besides get outplayed by Kamara in the last 4? Ingram was a complete non-factor vs the Vikings and Rams when we needed him the most.

foreverfan · 09-29-2019, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

LOL I'd want 5M guaranteed + an escape clause + input on which other posters get cut.

Right...

09-25-2019, 04:49 PM	#31
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I understand that Ingram's agent threw out a ridiculously high figure and we didn't try to renegotiate. We signed Murray and Ingram fired his agent immediately afterwards. You could tell by his body language that he was deflated about going to the Ravens and wanted to be part of this team moving forward. Ingram didn't quit on us. His agent screwed him. I wish him only the very best. Thats is similar to what I heard also. We offered 4mil/yr and His agent threw a ridiculously high number out there...close to 7mil/year. After that we didn’t try to counter and that was that. Apparently the agent was lying about the offers that Ingram had and he was trying to use it as leverage. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-25-2019, 05:13 PM	#32
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever Originally Posted by TheOak Thanks! I have a much clearer picture now, I didn't realize he jetted his agent after.... (did he? I cant find it anywhere in the news) This is my take: Mark started to believe his own hype, his agent believed it as well and they both went all in thinking he was irreplaceable. That body language can be seen walking away from every table in Vegas, someone went all in and lost. I will assume he terminated his agent because his agent did what an agent does, hypes you up and goes for big money. This was Ingram's 3rd contract and he should have known better than to get blind sided. A little history.. Mark Ingram terminated his agent in 2011 just before the draft. In April of 2018 he replaced his agent again.. Now you say a third time..? Then there is this... https://www.baltimoreravens.com/vide...hose-baltimore Touché Amigo!

09-25-2019, 10:07 PM	#33
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever Originally Posted by darksoul35 I agree it was a mistake but from what it sounds like Ingram went off on his own. He probably liked the chance to be a featured back. This. Ingram made a big mistake.
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09-27-2019, 01:28 AM	#34
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever Originally Posted by foreverfan What did he get... $500,000? Would anybody leave BlackandGold and return to SaintsReport for $500,000? LOL I'd want 5M guaranteed + an escape clause + input on which other posters get cut. foreverfan likes this.

09-29-2019, 03:16 PM	#35
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever Ingram sure is helping his team today by fumbling the ball leading to the giant momentum shift when Baltimore was down only by 7 points. Don't know how many times I have to tell y'all this - running backs don't matter when your QB can't play at an above average level. See Barry Sanders, the GOAT RB for many people. How many playoff games did the Lions win with his amazing play? Walter Payton's one ring came in the ONLY season the Bears have an above average ANY/A and decent passing game. Ingram isn't going to lead his team to any playoff wins cause that is simply not how it works. Speaking of playoffs, what did he do for us in any of his playoff games besides get outplayed by Kamara in the last 4? Ingram was a complete non-factor vs the Vikings and Rams when we needed him the most. dizzle88 likes this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Losing Ingram was just the dumbest thing we've done as a front office in forever Originally Posted by skymike LOL I'd want 5M guaranteed + an escape clause + input on which other posters get cut. Right...