2019 New Orleans Saints: Trade Deadline

K Major · 10-28-2019, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Word on the streets is we’re thinking about making a move for WR Golden Tate. I read something about because of his suspension the guaranteed money on his new contract with the Giants was voided.

Golden Tate? Saints killer? OMG.

Solid #2. SOLID.

I'm hopeful Loomis is Loomising.

dam1953 · 10-28-2019, 10:57 AM

Thinking about this in light of my earlier post in "15 TD passes to go for Brees to become all time leader" I believe that the challenge will be to find a receiver that has the necessary skill set between his ears.

Three receivers who performed well in the Saints' offense include Thomas, Colston and Watson. None of these guys had speed, which really didn't matter because Brees doesn't have the big arm and rarely holds the ball long enough for the big plays to develop anyway. So, to fit into this system receivers need to be able to see what Bree's sees before the snap and find the seams for 5, 10, or 20 yards. One remark made about Colston was that his ability to read coverage was like having a 2nd QB on the field.

If you look as free agents and draft picks who have failed to develop, they all seem to fit this same pattern. So, any receiver will have to come with a high football IQ to have an impact.

jeanpierre · 10-28-2019, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Thinking about this in light of my earlier post in "15 TD passes to go for Brees to become all time leader" I believe that the challenge will be to find a receiver that has the necessary skill set between his ears.

Three receivers who performed well in the Saints' offense include Thomas, Colston and Watson. None of these guys had speed, which really didn't matter because Brees doesn't have the big arm and rarely holds the ball long enough for the big plays to develop anyway...

Brees doesn't even have the strongest arm on the Saints, but he's got enough still, but more the experience and smarts, to release the ball downfield and generally be successful...

Though I'd agree that none of the three you mentioned had speed (and I'd mentioned Graham vs Watson), we did have speed on the outside to keep the safeties honest - and Ginn isn't doing that for us right now...

Also, the offensive line afforded Brees plenty of time yesterday to go downfield with it, but you can only give Ginn so many targets because of suspect long route running and unreliable hands...

ChrisXVI · 10-28-2019, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Golden Tate? Saints killer? OMG.

Solid #2. SOLID.

I'm hopeful Loomis is Loomising.

I’m sure we’re calling every team about everybody. You never know where you might find a good deal.

jeanpierre · 10-28-2019, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Golden Tate? Saints killer? OMG.

Solid #2. SOLID.

I'm hopeful Loomis is Loomising.

Expensive Contract, we sign him, we likely can't afford to re-sign younger Eli Apple - pick your poison...

I like this team with two great CBs and only one great WR vs the other way...

Know it's frustrating none of the WRs have stepped up, thought they all looked better with Brees at QB, but I'd rather have two CBs that can ball out...

And for what it's worth, if it wasn't for cap numbers, agree Tate would be the perfect complement to Thomas...

10-28-2019, 10:42 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Trade Deadline Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Word on the streets is we’re thinking about making a move for WR Golden Tate. I read something about because of his suspension the guaranteed money on his new contract with the Giants was voided. Golden Tate? Saints killer? OMG. Solid #2. SOLID. I'm hopeful Loomis is Loomising. foreverfan and ChrisXVI like this.

10-28-2019, 10:57 AM	#2
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Trade Deadline Thinking about this in light of my earlier post in "15 TD passes to go for Brees to become all time leader" I believe that the challenge will be to find a receiver that has the necessary skill set between his ears. Three receivers who performed well in the Saints' offense include Thomas, Colston and Watson. None of these guys had speed, which really didn't matter because Brees doesn't have the big arm and rarely holds the ball long enough for the big plays to develop anyway. So, to fit into this system receivers need to be able to see what Bree's sees before the snap and find the seams for 5, 10, or 20 yards. One remark made about Colston was that his ability to read coverage was like having a 2nd QB on the field. If you look as free agents and draft picks who have failed to develop, they all seem to fit this same pattern. So, any receiver will have to come with a high football IQ to have an impact. foreverfan likes this.
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10-28-2019, 05:19 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Trade Deadline Originally Posted by dam1953 Thinking about this in light of my earlier post in "15 TD passes to go for Brees to become all time leader" I believe that the challenge will be to find a receiver that has the necessary skill set between his ears. Three receivers who performed well in the Saints' offense include Thomas, Colston and Watson. None of these guys had speed, which really didn't matter because Brees doesn't have the big arm and rarely holds the ball long enough for the big plays to develop anyway... Brees doesn't even have the strongest arm on the Saints, but he's got enough still, but more the experience and smarts, to release the ball downfield and generally be successful... Though I'd agree that none of the three you mentioned had speed (and I'd mentioned Graham vs Watson), we did have speed on the outside to keep the safeties honest - and Ginn isn't doing that for us right now... Also, the offensive line afforded Brees plenty of time yesterday to go downfield with it, but you can only give Ginn so many targets because of suspect long route running and unreliable hands...
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10-28-2019, 11:01 AM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Golden Tate? Saints killer? OMG. Solid #2. SOLID. I'm hopeful Loomis is Loomising. I’m sure we’re calling every team about everybody. You never know where you might find a good deal. foreverfan and K Major like this.

10-28-2019, 05:13 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Golden Tate? Saints killer? OMG. Solid #2. SOLID. I'm hopeful Loomis is Loomising. Expensive Contract, we sign him, we likely can't afford to re-sign younger Eli Apple - pick your poison... I like this team with two great CBs and only one great WR vs the other way... Know it's frustrating none of the WRs have stepped up, thought they all looked better with Brees at QB, but I'd rather have two CBs that can ball out... And for what it's worth, if it wasn't for cap numbers, agree Tate would be the perfect complement to Thomas...