Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout

rezburna · 11-16-2019, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

Finally someone commenting about football.

I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day.

When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be.

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2019, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day.

When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be.

I honestly never saw Kap as a Lamar Jackson type talent. I'm not sure if he could be successful in that same offense. Kap's strength as a runner came more from his straight line speed. The RPO was such a new thing to NFL defenses at first that he gashed teams. In time teams started to figure out ways of taking parts of that game away and forced him to try to beat them with the pass. As you pointed out, that was his weakness and eventually cost him his job.

Lamar, on the other hand, has the shiftiness of a RB and can still throw accurately from either in the pocket or on the move. Kap was always more angular, and while more allusive than most QB's, no where near as elusive as Lamar, or for that matter, Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray.

rezburna · 11-16-2019, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I honestly never saw Kap as a Lamar Jackson type talent. I'm not sure if he could be successful in that same offense. Kap's strength as a runner came more from his straight line speed. The RPO was such a new thing to NFL defenses at first that he gashed teams. In time teams started to figure out ways of taking parts of that game away and forced him to try to beat them with the pass. As you pointed out, that was his weakness and eventually cost him his job.

Lamar, on the other hand, has the shiftiness of a RB and can still throw accurately from either in the pocket or on the move. Kap was always more angular, and while more allusive than most QB's, no where near as elusive as Lamar, or for that matter, Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray.

I agree with that assessment of his agility. He definitely isn’t shifty like the guys you mentioned. Maybe a better comparison would be Cam Newton, another QB with accuracy and touch issues who went to a Super Bowl. I guess what I’m saying is if the ingredients are right he can be successful in the league. He’s talented enough to start in the NFL. He always was. No one can convince me he wouldn’t be better than Mason Rudolph or Jeff Driskel.

Thirty3 · 11-16-2019, 08:07 PM

A running offense

saintsfan1976 · 11-19-2019, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day.

When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be.

I view Taysom as humble, do "anything for the team" player who's accomplished at just about every position on the field - with a smile.

I view Kap as somewhat divisive and obviously distracting. All things you want to avoid when cohesiveness is paramount to winning.

Besides, you can find half a dozen QBs with the same skills for less money. His latest workout proved that.

SmashMouth · 11-15-2019, 08:34 AM

Can he ball in Arena league?

stickman · 11-15-2019, 09:32 AM

Why would they go? They have a hall of famer starting, a backup who just won 5 straight, and the third string guy is an offensive wildcard. What would they do with him?

burningmetal · 11-15-2019, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Why would they go? They have a hall of famer starting, a backup who just won 5 straight, and the third string guy is an offensive wildcard. What would they do with him?

They could make him the permanent holder. He'd get to do his favorite thing in the world for the rest of his career... Kneel.

OldMaid · 11-24-2019, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

Why would they go? They have a hall of famer starting, a backup who just won 5 straight, and the third string guy is an offensive wildcard. What would they do with him?

Repeat. Repost. Great post.

jnormand · 11-15-2019, 10:03 AM

Protesting police brutality and inequality. Right. But you sure took that big paycheck when you settled your suit. What a douche. I never liked Kap. Then when he came up with this bs reason why he was kneeling when he was just being a baby because he got benched...I really wish he'd go away. What a fraud.

11-16-2019, 09:38 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Originally Posted by cmike Finally someone commenting about football. I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day. When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be.
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11-16-2019, 10:27 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Originally Posted by rezburna I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day. When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be. I honestly never saw Kap as a Lamar Jackson type talent. I'm not sure if he could be successful in that same offense. Kap's strength as a runner came more from his straight line speed. The RPO was such a new thing to NFL defenses at first that he gashed teams. In time teams started to figure out ways of taking parts of that game away and forced him to try to beat them with the pass. As you pointed out, that was his weakness and eventually cost him his job. Lamar, on the other hand, has the shiftiness of a RB and can still throw accurately from either in the pocket or on the move. Kap was always more angular, and while more allusive than most QB's, no where near as elusive as Lamar, or for that matter, Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray. frydaddy likes this.
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11-16-2019, 10:46 AM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I honestly never saw Kap as a Lamar Jackson type talent. I'm not sure if he could be successful in that same offense. Kap's strength as a runner came more from his straight line speed. The RPO was such a new thing to NFL defenses at first that he gashed teams. In time teams started to figure out ways of taking parts of that game away and forced him to try to beat them with the pass. As you pointed out, that was his weakness and eventually cost him his job. Lamar, on the other hand, has the shiftiness of a RB and can still throw accurately from either in the pocket or on the move. Kap was always more angular, and while more allusive than most QB's, no where near as elusive as Lamar, or for that matter, Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray. I agree with that assessment of his agility. He definitely isn’t shifty like the guys you mentioned. Maybe a better comparison would be Cam Newton, another QB with accuracy and touch issues who went to a Super Bowl. I guess what I’m saying is if the ingredients are right he can be successful in the league. He’s talented enough to start in the NFL. He always was. No one can convince me he wouldn’t be better than Mason Rudolph or Jeff Driskel.

11-16-2019, 08:07 PM	#4
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11-19-2019, 07:06 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Originally Posted by rezburna I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and ** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day. When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be. I view Taysom as humble, do "anything for the team" player who's accomplished at just about every position on the field - with a smile. I view Kap as somewhat divisive and obviously distracting. All things you want to avoid when cohesiveness** is paramount to winning. Besides, you can find half a dozen QBs with the same skills for less money. His latest workout proved that. jnormand, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-15-2019, 08:34 AM	#6
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11-15-2019, 09:32 AM	#7
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,765	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Why would they go? They have a hall of famer starting, a backup who just won 5 straight, and the third string guy is an offensive wildcard. What would they do with him? RailBoss and OldMaid like this.

11-15-2019, 09:41 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Originally Posted by stickman Why would they go? They have a hall of famer starting, a backup who just won 5 straight, and the third string guy is an offensive wildcard. What would they do with him? They could make him the permanent holder. He'd get to do his favorite thing in the world for the rest of his career... Kneel. jnormand, MatthewT, SaintGup and 1 others like this.

11-24-2019, 12:16 PM	#9
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Originally Posted by stickman Why would they go? They have a hall of famer starting, a backup who just won 5 straight, and the third string guy is an offensive wildcard. What would they do with him? Repeat. Repost. Great post. skymike likes this.

11-15-2019, 10:03 AM	#10
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout Protesting police brutality and inequality. Right. But you sure took that big paycheck when you settled your suit. What a douche. I never liked Kap. Then when he came up with this bs reason why he was kneeling when he was just being a baby because he got benched...I really wish he'd go away. What a fraud. MatthewT, skymike and burningmetal like this.