Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs

ChrisXVI · 11-17-2019, 06:37 PM

A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick.

I know, I know, but Davenport does other things to effect the play.

spkb25 · 11-17-2019, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick.

I know, I know, but Davenport does other things to effect the play.

Davenport showed real promise early on, but other guys are outplaying him. Hope he turns it around

Rell&Gold · 11-18-2019, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick.

I know, I know, but Davenport does other things to effect the play.

Does the rookie split snaps with anyone?..... Because since Trey has came back Davenport is being rotated. Why? idk it does concern me a bit too....granted Trey has been in the the league longer, I'm not ready to pass on as some of you are though

Preston Smith is balling with the Packers and the Redskins are looking like the losers all because they couldn't be patient.

Cameron Jordan wasn't the Cameron Jordan we know today his first 2 years

K Major · 11-18-2019, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick.

I know, I know, but Davenport does other things to effect the play.

Purely speculation but could Marcus be playing hurt/injured?

I know this is year 3 for his teammate Trey H but he has "explosion" off the line. Kind of easy to see why he's getting so close to the QB. I've noticed that MD is a half step behind here.

Get it together. We'll need both down the stretch.

Rell&Gold · 11-18-2019, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Purely speculation but could Marcus be playing hurt/injured?

I know this is year 3 for his teammate Trey H but he has "explosion" off the line. Kind of easy to see why he's getting so close to the QB. I've noticed that MD is a half step behind here.

Get it together. We'll need both down the stretch.

MD get off does seem a little slow and he seems to still only be using the bullrush. But I think it comes with time.

Like I said Preston Smith is doing his thing and he took some time and he was a higher rated player than MD.....The injury may be hindering some, but we'll see by seasons end

K Major · 11-18-2019, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

MD get off does seem a little slow and he seems to still only be using the bullrush. But I think it comes with time.

Like I said Preston Smith is doing his thing and he took some time and he was a higher rated player than MD.....The injury may be hindering some, but we'll see by seasons end

Agreed. It does take time to master the technique.

I noticed he was bottled up quite a bit on that "bull rush" yesterday. Also when Jameis was running for his life, Davenport was chasing but simply didn't seem to have the jets as he usually does.

The Dude · 11-18-2019, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

MD get off does seem a little slow and he seems to still only be using the bullrush. But I think it comes with time.

Like I said Preston Smith is doing his thing and he took some time and he was a higher rated player than MD.....The injury may be hindering some, but we'll see by seasons end

From what I hear from coach/ player interviews, radio talk etc he is
Just kind of slow as far as catching on to technique and more importantly he needs to be more instinctive. They rely on his pure physical freakishness for the bull rush but that’s about all he’s got right now.
Talent is great and all but only gets you so far when you are around so many other talented players. Intelligence and instinct separate the men from the boys.
I had hoped to see more.

Rell&Gold · 11-18-2019, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

From what I hear from coach/ player interviews, radio talk etc he is
Just kind of slow as far as catching on to technique and more importantly he needs to be more instinctive. They rely on his pure physical freakishness for the bull rush but that’s about all he’s got right now.
Talent is great and all but only gets you so far when you are around so many other talented players. Intelligence and instinct separate the men from the boys.
I had hoped to see more.

He look likes a thinker....like he's thinking on the go instead of trusting his eyes and playing free... because when he does OMG when he does you see why they drafted him. Trey was the same way, but he's coming along he has more moves and counters....I still believe the kid can prove to himself and the doubters what he's truly capable of

Crusader · 11-18-2019, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

He look likes a thinker....like he's thinking on the go instead of trusting his eyes and playing free... because when he does OMG when he does you see why they drafted him. Trey was the same way, but he's coming along he has more moves and counters....I still believe the kid can prove to himself and the doubters what he's truly capable of

Good observation. I am still very high on Davenport and if he can make a jump like Hendrickson has he will be special because his physical abilities are crazy.

The Dude · 11-18-2019, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

He look likes a thinker....like he's thinking on the go instead of trusting his eyes and playing free... because when he does OMG when he does you see why they drafted him. Trey was the same way, but he's coming along he has more moves and counters....I still believe the kid can prove to himself and the doubters what he's truly capable of

I think he’s the opposite. He tries too much to just go 100% and maul people because he didn’t HAVE to think as much in college. He was just stronger, faster, tougher than anyone else. Now he can’t rely purely on his physically, he has to play smart because of the level of competition.
Maybe now he’s trying to overcompensate now and thinks too much.
Once he gets it and has the combination of both...look out. Just hope it happens.

11-17-2019, 06:37 PM	#1
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11-17-2019, 06:42 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by ChrisXVI A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick. I know, I know, but Davenport does other things to effect the play. Davenport showed real promise early on, but other guys are outplaying him. Hope he turns it around Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-18-2019, 08:01 AM	#3
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by ChrisXVI A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick. I know, I know, but Davenport does other things to effect the play. Does the rookie split snaps with anyone?..... Because since Trey has came back Davenport is being rotated. Why? idk it does concern me a bit too....granted Trey has been in the the league longer, I'm not ready to pass on as some of you are though Preston Smith is balling with the Packers and the Redskins are looking like the losers all because they couldn't be patient. Cameron Jordan wasn't the Cameron Jordan we know today his first 2 years K Major likes this.

11-18-2019, 08:18 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by ChrisXVI A rookie DE for the Raiders (Maxx Crosby) just had more sacks today than Marcus Davenport has all season... and he was a 4th round pick. I know, I know, but Davenport* does other things to effect the play.* Purely speculation but could Marcus be playing hurt/injured? I know this is year 3 for his teammate Trey H but he has "explosion" off the line. Kind of easy to see why he's getting so close to the QB. I've noticed that MD is a half step behind here. Get it together. We'll need both down the stretch.

11-18-2019, 08:26 AM	#5
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Purely speculation but could Marcus be playing hurt/injured? I know this is year 3 for his teammate Trey H but he has "explosion" off the line. Kind of easy to see why he's getting so close to the QB. I've noticed that MD is a half step behind here. Get it together. We'll need both down the stretch. MD get off does seem a little slow and he seems to still only be using the bullrush. But I think it comes with time. Like I said Preston Smith is doing his thing and he took some time and he was a higher rated player than MD.....The injury may be hindering some, but we'll see by seasons end K Major likes this.

11-18-2019, 08:39 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold MD get off does seem a little slow and he seems to still only be using the bullrush. But I think it comes with time. Like I said Preston Smith is doing his thing and he took some time and he was a higher rated player than MD.....The injury may be hindering some, but we'll see by seasons end Agreed. It does take time to master the technique. I noticed he was bottled up quite a bit on that "bull rush" yesterday. Also when Jameis was running for his life, Davenport was chasing but simply didn't seem to have the jets as he usually does. Rell&Gold likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold MD get off does seem a little slow and he seems to still only be using the bullrush. But I think it comes with time. Like I said Preston Smith is doing his thing and he took some time and he was a higher rated player than MD.....The injury may be hindering some, but we'll see by seasons end From what I hear from coach/ player interviews, radio talk etc he is Just kind of slow as far as catching on to technique and more importantly he needs to be more instinctive. They rely on his pure physical freakishness for the bull rush but that’s about all he’s got right now. Talent is great and all but only gets you so far when you are around so many other talented players. Intelligence and instinct separate the men from the boys. I had hoped to see more. Rell&Gold likes this.
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11-18-2019, 09:18 AM	#8
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by The Dude From what I hear from coach/ player interviews, radio talk etc he is Just kind of slow as far as catching on to technique and more importantly he needs to be more instinctive. They rely on his pure physical freakishness for the bull rush but that’s about all he’s got right now. Talent is great and all but only gets you so far when you are around so many other talented players. Intelligence and instinct separate the men from the boys. I had hoped to see more. He look likes a thinker....like he's thinking on the go instead of trusting his eyes and playing free... because when he does OMG when he does you see why they drafted him. Trey was the same way, but he's coming along he has more moves and counters....I still believe the kid can prove to himself and the doubters what he's truly capable of Crusader and K Major like this.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold He look likes a thinker....like he's thinking on the go instead of trusting his eyes and playing free... because when he does OMG when he does you see why they drafted him. Trey was the same way, but he's coming along he has more moves and counters....I still believe the kid can prove to himself and the doubters what he's truly capable of Good observation. I am still very high on Davenport and if he can make a jump like Hendrickson has he will be special because his physical abilities are crazy. Rell&Gold likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold He look likes a thinker....like he's thinking on the go instead of trusting his eyes and playing free... because when he does OMG when he does you see why they drafted him. Trey was the same way, but he's coming along he has more moves and counters....I still believe the kid can prove to himself and the doubters what he's truly capable of I think he’s the opposite. He tries too much to just go 100% and maul people because he didn’t HAVE to think as much in college. He was just stronger, faster, tougher than anyone else. Now he can’t rely purely on his physically, he has to play smart because of the level of competition. Maybe now he’s trying to overcompensate now and thinks too much. Once he gets it and has the combination of both...look out. Just hope it happens. Rell&Gold likes this.
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