Is It Clear?

Rugby Saint II · 11-25-2019, 02:21 PM

The Saints are a small market team. We don't have the same apparel sales that a large market team does. We pissed off the league when we beat the beloved Peyton Manning lead Colts and stole their Lombardi with an on sides kick. They are illegal now. Hmmm..... Bounty gate followed and then the flags started flying against us but not our opponent. Payton has called the NFL out on several occasions and showed the country that he was right.....except for that bounty gate made up mess. The clown shirts worn by Saints players and coaches probably didn't help matters though.

In essence it's us against the league and the team that we are playing every single game. The refs hate us for calling them out and Godhell hates us for showing that bounty gate was baseless accusations. Player punishment was thrown out but the NFL went after our front office and coaches that didn't have a union to fight for them. I can't recall anything that was egregious enough to attack ANY front office. Godhell is just vindictive!

I will say this. Maybe just maybe the league is only trying to keep games close to keep the viewers excited(which is just wrong on all levels)....but I doubt that it factors into the perplexing penalties that the Saints get.

neugey · 11-25-2019, 05:26 PM

We need a Donaghy-like scandal to get exposed in the NFL. Until that happens, the league will continue to be full of schizophrenic officiating, and not just against us.

saintfan · 11-25-2019, 07:19 PM

For those who still think I'm just blowing smoke:

https://www.wwltv.com/article/sports...2LEdSn7sG3UKJs

burningmetal · 11-26-2019, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

For those who still think I'm just blowing smoke:

https://www.wwltv.com/article/sports...2LEdSn7sG3UKJs

The numbers shown in that link, at face value, don't really tell the story. It could easily just mean that the Saints are undisciplined. When you watch a game like yesterday, and you see the Panthers getting away with the same crap that was being called against the Saints ALL DAY, and how many calls came in the most critical of moments, then you understand how biased it appears to be.

And nothing will come of it. As always.

Barry from MS · 11-25-2019, 07:20 PM

Check this out...penalties resulting in 1st down.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/automat...view=total_for

Vrillon82 · 11-26-2019, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Check this out...penalties resulting in 1st down.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/automat...view=total_for

Reread through it.

Yeah GB being at the top is not surprising, this is a very mediocre team that refs have pushed into 8-3 record when they probably no better than 6-5 if not 5-6 record.

Its interesting how Chicago their was only 4 penalties, obviously trying to push GB further. Minnesota seems to be part of the problem to, this link is self explanatory and gives you an idea of who you dont want to play in the playoffs, especially if you on the road against them.

foreverfan · 11-25-2019, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Although my recent rhetoric would indicate otherwise, I do not like to blame the refs. You have to overcome bad calls and in general all teams have to do it.

But today, as with recent games, it is ever clear to me that the Saints not only have to beat the team they're playing, they also have to overcome what, to me, is a clear bias by the league to manipulate the outcome of the games.

We simply have to play cleaner than the other team. I hate that Roger has done this to the NFL. I really do. It puts extra pressure on us. And we're not the only team suffering from a league bias.

Good win today. Nice job by the entire organization. Way to keep your heads up in an environment that is clearly stacked against you.

What are you stupid?
Of course we have to blame the refs.

Vrillon82 · 11-26-2019, 01:05 AM

It be interesting to see if stats exist on non-calls, but I doubt they do.

Require alot of film study and work just for 1 game.

I also curious on how officials under alot of scrutiny fare game to game and what is called. Like last years officials in the NFCCG, how have they looked this year?

SaintsBro · 11-26-2019, 08:56 AM

"It wasn't our best game. It wasn't their best game, and quite honestly it wasn't New York's best game," Payton said after Sunday's game, referring to the NFL replay review team.

OUCH. I love it when Payton lays it out there like that.

skymike · 11-26-2019, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

"It wasn't our best game. It wasn't their best game, and quite honestly it wasn't New York's best game," Payton said after Sunday's game, referring to the NFL replay review team.

OUCH. I love it when Payton lays it out there like that.

is that gonna be a fine?

11-25-2019, 02:21 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Is It Clear? The Saints are a small market team. We don't have the same apparel sales that a large market team does. We pissed off the league when we beat the beloved Peyton Manning lead Colts and stole their Lombardi with an on sides kick. They are illegal now. Hmmm..... Bounty gate followed and then the flags started flying against us but not our opponent. Payton has called the NFL out on several occasions and showed the country that he was right.....except for that bounty gate made up mess. The clown shirts worn by Saints players and coaches probably didn't help matters though. In essence it's us against the league and the team that we are playing every single game. The refs hate us for calling them out and Godhell hates us for showing that bounty gate was baseless accusations. Player punishment was thrown out but the NFL went after our front office and coaches that didn't have a union to fight for them. I can't recall anything that was egregious enough to attack ANY front office. Godhell is just vindictive! I will say this. Maybe just maybe the league is only trying to keep games close to keep the viewers excited(which is just wrong on all levels)....but I doubt that it factors into the perplexing penalties that the Saints get.
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11-25-2019, 05:26 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Is It Clear? We need a Donaghy-like scandal to get exposed in the NFL. Until that happens, the league will continue to be full of schizophrenic officiating, and not just against us. Barry from MS likes this.

11-25-2019, 07:19 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is It Clear? For those who still think I'm just blowing smoke: https://www.wwltv.com/article/sports...2LEdSn7sG3UKJs

11-26-2019, 12:57 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is It Clear? Originally Posted by saintfan For those who still think I'm just blowing smoke: https://www.wwltv.com/article/sports...2LEdSn7sG3UKJs The numbers shown in that link, at face value, don't really tell the story. It could easily just mean that the Saints are undisciplined. When you watch a game like yesterday, and you see the Panthers getting away with the same crap that was being called against the Saints ALL DAY, and how many calls came in the most critical of moments, then you understand how biased it appears to be. And nothing will come of it. As always.

11-25-2019, 07:20 PM	#5
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is It Clear? Check this out...penalties resulting in 1st down. https://www.nflpenalties.com/automat...view=total_for

11-26-2019, 12:30 AM	#6
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Is It Clear? Originally Posted by Barry from MS Check this out...penalties resulting in 1st down. https://www.nflpenalties.com/automat...view=total_for Reread through it. Yeah GB being at the top is not surprising, this is a very mediocre team that refs have pushed into 8-3 record when they probably no better than 6-5 if not 5-6 record. Its interesting how Chicago their was only 4 penalties, obviously trying to push GB further. Minnesota seems to be part of the problem to, this link is self explanatory and gives you an idea of who you dont want to play in the playoffs, especially if you on the road against them.
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127

11-25-2019, 09:12 PM	#7
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is It Clear? Originally Posted by saintfan Although my recent rhetoric would indicate otherwise, I do not like to blame the refs. You have to overcome bad calls and in general all teams have to do it. But today, as with recent games, it is ever clear to me that the Saints not only have to beat the team they're playing, they also have to overcome what, to me, is a clear bias by the league to manipulate the outcome of the games. We simply have to play cleaner than the other team. I hate that Roger has done this to the NFL. I really do. It puts extra pressure on us. And we're not the only team suffering from a league bias. Good win today. Nice job by the entire organization. Way to keep your heads up in an environment that is clearly stacked against you. What are you stupid? Of course we have to blame the refs. skymike likes this.

11-26-2019, 01:05 AM	#8
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Is It Clear? It be interesting to see if stats exist on non-calls, but I doubt they do. Require alot of film study and work just for 1 game. I also curious on how officials under alot of scrutiny fare game to game and what is called. Like last years officials in the NFCCG, how have they looked this year?
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127

11-26-2019, 08:56 AM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is It Clear? "It wasn't our best game. It wasn't their best game, and quite honestly it wasn't New York's best game," Payton said after Sunday's game, referring to the NFL replay review team. OUCH. I love it when Payton lays it out there like that. K Major likes this.

11-26-2019, 09:35 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Is It Clear? Originally Posted by SaintsBro "It wasn't our best game. It wasn't their best game, and quite honestly it wasn't New York's best game," Payton said after Sunday's game, referring to the NFL replay review team. OUCH. I love it when Payton lays it out there like that. is that gonna be a fine? st thomas likes this.

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