Wide Reciever

blackangold · 11-30-2019, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I agree, no point in throwing the ball to anyone else when one person catches damn near everything. Why do that, throw it to someone else? No.

Throw it to him every single time. So what. Nobody can stop it. Besides, look at all the drops from everyone else right in the numbers. NO.

What good CBs has MT played this year?

What happens when MT gets covered by Sherman?

spkb25 · 11-30-2019, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

What good CBs has MT played this year?

What happens when MT gets covered by Sherman?

I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down.

blackangold · 11-30-2019, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down.

Byron Jones locked down MT and they KOed Kamara... it also helped that they were allowed to mug our WRs. There should have been at least 10 PIs that were never called.

spkb25 · 11-30-2019, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Byron Jones locked down MT and they KOed Kamara... it also helped that they were allowed to mug our WRs. There should have been at least 10 PIs that were never called.

Yeah I remember that too now. Mugging them. That's the thing about playoffs too, it is like they call the PI less stringent than during regular season.

K Major · 11-30-2019, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down.

Precisely.

See post #18.

K Major · 11-30-2019, 09:35 PM

I'd like to see Deonte' Harris more involved in the offense vs Niners and subsequent playoff run.

Sure as hell can't count on Ginn and Trequan Smith.

Beastmode · 11-30-2019, 09:40 PM

He was putting it right in their hands. We are who we are at this point. I would not throw it anyone but MT, Kamara, Taysom and Cook which is more options than Green Bay has so I will take it. Our WR's suck. Can't have it all.

st thomas · 11-30-2019, 11:33 PM

Stop thinking fantasy stats and start thinking Super Bowl . Put AK in the slot and Murray in the back field which I think will be coming more often .

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Vrillon82 · 12-01-2019, 02:20 PM

People want to say Brees aint declining, his decision making may not be, but his arm certainly is.

He not getting the ball out like he did 4-5 years ago to a WR/TE. He still got the accuracy, but he not throwing it 20-30 yards down field unless they really wide open because his arm strength is obviously diminished alot. This is where you start to see where you stand with your WR/TE/RB because in the past, Brees could make anyone look good. Now you better have good talent at those positions that will help your QB as much as he helps you.

Halo · 12-01-2019, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

People want to say Brees aint declining, his decision making may not be, but his arm certainly is.

He not getting the ball out like he did 4-5 years ago to a WR/TE. He still got the accuracy, but he not throwing it 20-30 yards down field unless they really wide open because his arm strength is obviously diminished alot. This is where you start to see where you stand with your WR/TE/RB because in the past, Brees could make anyone look good. Now you better have good talent at those positions that will help your QB as much as he helps you.

I saw a 25 yard pass that fell into TE Cook's hands and dropped with a wide open field
Cook also dropped another easy touch pass inside the end zone.
Tedd Ginn Jr has dropped so many balls this year that I hope we cut him. Those balls have landed right in his hands.

Brees decline? Sure... maybe.... who would know if wide receivers don't catch balls. I've read this argument that Brees has been on the decline since 2012.

11-30-2019, 09:15 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by blackangold What good CBs has MT played this year? What happens when MT gets covered by Sherman? I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down.

11-30-2019, 09:17 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by spkb25 I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down. Byron Jones locked down MT and they KOed Kamara... it also helped that they were allowed to mug our WRs. There should have been at least 10 PIs that were never called. spkb25 and K Major like this.

11-30-2019, 09:27 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by blackangold Byron Jones locked down MT and they KOed Kamara... it also helped that they were allowed to mug our WRs. There should have been at least 10 PIs that were never called. Yeah I remember that too now. Mugging them. That's the thing about playoffs too, it is like they call the PI less stringent than during regular season. K Major likes this.

11-30-2019, 09:30 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by spkb25 I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down. Precisely. See post #18.

11-30-2019, 09:35 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wide Reciever I'd like to see Deonte' Harris more involved in the offense vs Niners and subsequent playoff run. Sure as hell can't count on Ginn and Trequan Smith. spkb25, RailBoss, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

11-30-2019, 08:52 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by Beastmode I agree, no point in throwing the ball to anyone else when one person catches damn near everything. Why do that, throw it to someone else? No. Throw it to him every single time. So what. Nobody can stop it. Besides, look at all the drops from everyone else right in the numbers. NO. What good CBs has MT played this year? What happens when MT gets covered by Sherman?

11-30-2019, 09:40 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Wide Reciever He was putting it right in their hands. We are who we are at this point. I would not throw it anyone but MT, Kamara, Taysom and Cook which is more options than Green Bay has so I will take it. Our WR's suck. Can't have it all. RailBoss and cmike like this.
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11-30-2019, 11:33 PM	#8
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Wide Reciever Stop thinking fantasy stats and start thinking Super Bowl . Put AK in the slot and Murray in the back field which I think will be coming more often . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RailBoss, papz and WW_Who_Dat like this.

12-01-2019, 02:20 PM	#9
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Wide Reciever People want to say Brees aint declining, his decision making may not be, but his arm certainly is. He not getting the ball out like he did 4-5 years ago to a WR/TE. He still got the accuracy, but he not throwing it 20-30 yards down field unless they really wide open because his arm strength is obviously diminished alot. This is where you start to see where you stand with your WR/TE/RB because in the past, Brees could make anyone look good. Now you better have good talent at those positions that will help your QB as much as he helps you.
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12-01-2019, 03:08 PM	#10
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by Vrillon82 People want to say Brees aint declining, his decision making may not be, but his arm certainly is. He not getting the ball out like he did 4-5 years ago to a WR/TE. He still got the accuracy, but he not throwing it 20-30 yards down field unless they really wide open because his arm strength is obviously diminished alot. This is where you start to see where you stand with your WR/TE/RB because in the past, Brees could make anyone look good. Now you better have good talent at those positions that will help your QB as much as he helps you. I saw a 25 yard pass that fell into TE Cook's hands and dropped with a wide open field Cook also dropped another easy touch pass inside the end zone. Tedd Ginn Jr has dropped so many balls this year that I hope we cut him. Those balls have landed right in his hands. Brees decline? Sure... maybe.... who would know if wide receivers don't catch balls. I've read this argument that Brees has been on the decline since 2012. saintfan, iceshack149, spkb25 and 5 others like this.