Had 24 hours to reflect on the game

K Major · 12-10-2019, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There is no "no holding on a punt" rule. There is, however a "no pass interference on a punt" rule. Holding the gunner/receiver all the down the field should have been a penalty according to the rules. The exact same holding call is made routinely on punt plays. Clean blocking downfield is fine. Grasping onto the gunner is not and that is what happened. Unfortunately, it is not reviewable as is PI.

That's what I meant.

What I don't agree with is running a "fake" with Tre. He's not aggressive enough to get it when it's in the air.

Side note - I've watched a ton of football and I'll be honest here, I never knew the rule (not reviewable on PI) ... there was an obvious mugging (holding) is not reviewable?? Taysom was in punt formation however he was lined up deep and a WR is out side, what the hell determines if it's "punt formation"?

According to Article 3/section 5 (PI) of the NFL playbook :

"Whenever a team presents an apparent punting formation and until the ball is kicked, defensive acts that normally constitute pass interference are permitted against the end man on the line of scrimmage, or against an eligible receiver behind the line of scrimmage who is aligned or in motion more than one yard outside the end man on the line, provided that the acts do not constitute illegal holding. Defensive holding, such as tackling a receiver, still can be called and result in a five yard penalty from the previous spot, if accepted. Offensive pass interference rules still apply".

This would have given the Saints an automatic first down on that fake punt.

In short, the Saints were screwed on that play.

End rant

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I'm on to the Colts

12-10-2019, 09:30 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Had 24 hours to reflect on the game Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There is no "no holding on a punt" rule. There is, however a "no pass interference on a punt" rule. Holding the gunner/receiver all the down the field should have been a penalty according to the rules. The exact same holding call is made routinely on punt plays. Clean blocking downfield is fine. Grasping onto the gunner is not and that is what happened. Unfortunately, it is not reviewable as is PI. That's what I meant. What I don't agree with is running a "fake" with Tre. He's not aggressive enough to get it when it's in the air. Side note - I've watched a ton of football and I'll be honest here, I never knew the rule (not reviewable on PI) ... there was an obvious mugging (holding) is not reviewable?? Taysom was in punt formation however he was lined up deep and a WR is out side, what the hell determines if it's "punt formation"? According to Article 3/section 5 (PI) of the NFL playbook : "Whenever a team presents an apparent punting formation and until the ball is kicked, defensive acts that normally constitute pass interference are permitted against the end man on the line of scrimmage, or against an eligible receiver behind the line of scrimmage who is aligned or in motion more than one yard outside the end man on the line, provided that the acts do not constitute illegal holding. Defensive holding, such as tackling a receiver, still can be called and result in a five yard penalty from the previous spot, if accepted. Offensive pass interference rules still apply". This would have given the Saints an automatic first down on that fake punt. In short, the Saints were screwed on that play. End rant . I'm on to the Colts AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

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