Payton's Play Calling

44Champs · 01-05-2020, 04:45 PM

His play calling has become so vanilla. We used to have a lot of pre-snap motions, which created some confusion and allowed Brees to predict coverages. Granted, we don't have the weapons like we used to, but all the more reason to do whatever we can to keep the defense guessing.

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Halo · 01-05-2020, 04:48 PM

I didn't recognize the offense out there today, for at least 3 and a half quarters. I don't know what SP is doing, but it sure is getting old watching us bumble during the playoffs.

spkb25 · 01-06-2020, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I didn't recognize the offense out there today, for at least 3 and a half quarters. I don't know what SP is doing, but it sure is getting old watching us bumble during the playoffs.

I didnt understand the desire for long developing plays when the oline was getting their lunch ate. It wasn't until our final few drives where we started to have quick passes that we moved the ball.

RefsRobbedUs · 01-06-2020, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I didnt understand the desire for long developing plays when the oline was getting their lunch ate. It wasn't until our final few drives where we started to have quick passes that we moved the ball.

Exactly. Plus how many deep balls have you seen Drew complete this year? I thought I read a stat that said we had the least amount of big air yard plays.

Ginn is still living on his name as a speedster and Brees does not have the arm. That's why Taysom was paired with Harris on that bomb.

Budsdrinker · 01-07-2020, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

Exactly. Plus how many deep balls have you seen Drew complete this year? I thought I read a stat that said we had the least amount of big air yard plays.

Ginn is still living on his name as a speedster and Brees does not have the arm. That's why Taysom was paired with Harris on that bomb.

Have to disagree on the Taysom statement. When Taysom is in the game, defenses think it's 98% chance of a run. That's why Taysom's pass worked which was slightly under thrown by the way.

ChrisXVI · 01-05-2020, 04:56 PM

If you go back and watch clips from the “glory days” of the Saints offense we had four competent WR’s (Colston, Henderson, Meachem and Moore) to go with two pass catching RB’s and a TE.

Our current offense is horrendous personnel-wise compared to that.

WillMacKenzie · 01-05-2020, 05:00 PM

Don’t forget, you can’t just lose a guy like Max Unger and it not affect your interior line. ESPECIALLY someone with so much big game experience.

But I think really, in the Saints glory days, they had a better interior o-line. Which gives Brees the pocket to turn any WR into a star. Well, unless they’re complete trash and can’t catch anything whatsoever

Halo · 01-05-2020, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Don’t forget, you can’t just lose a guy like Max Unger and it not affect your interior line. ESPECIALLY someone with so much big game experience.

But I think really, in the Saints glory days, they had a better interior o-line. Which gives Brees the pocket to turn any WR into a star. Well, unless they’re complete trash and can’t catch anything whatsoever

The season started with drops.... the season ended with drops. It's the playoffs, you must catch the ball. Trequan Smith dropped one in his paws. Ginn redeemed himself... but this begs the question - where in the F was Jared Cook all game? He's been lights out the past 4 games but for some reason he sits on the sidelines and shows up late in the 4th quarter, hustles and gets wide open, hauls in some key catches, and then that's it. WE NEEDED HIM THE ENTIRE GAME!

dam1953 · 01-05-2020, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

The season started with drops.... the season ended with drops. It's the playoffs, you must catch the ball. Trequan Smith dropped one in his paws. Ginn redeemed himself... but this begs the question - where in the F was Jared Cook all game? He's been lights out the past 4 games but for some reason he sits on the sidelines and shows up late in the 4th quarter, hustles and gets wide open, hauls in some key catches, and then that's it. WE NEEDED HIM THE ENTIRE GAME!

The Brees and Brady both had similar issues, not enough weapons to use.

WillMacKenzie · 01-05-2020, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

The season started with drops.... the season ended with drops. It's the playoffs, you must catch the ball. Trequan Smith dropped one in his paws. Ginn redeemed himself... but this begs the question - where in the F was Jared Cook all game? He's been lights out the past 4 games but for some reason he sits on the sidelines and shows up late in the 4th quarter, hustles and gets wide open, hauls in some key catches, and then that's it. WE NEEDED HIM THE ENTIRE GAME!

It’s true.

No becoming a star if you can’t catch a cold.

Forget speed, height, vertical, etc....CATCH the ball

01-05-2020, 04:45 PM	#1
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Payton's Play Calling His play calling has become so vanilla. We used to have a lot of pre-snap motions, which created some confusion and allowed Brees to predict coverages. Granted, we don't have the weapons like we used to, but all the more reason to do whatever we can to keep the defense guessing. XLIV CHAMPS spkb25, Rugby Saint II, dam1953 and 1 others like this.
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01-05-2020, 04:48 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Payton's Play Calling I didn't recognize the offense out there today, for at least 3 and a half quarters. I don't know what SP is doing, but it sure is getting old watching us bumble during the playoffs. spkb25 and skymike like this.

01-06-2020, 07:50 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by Halo I didn't recognize the offense out there today, for at least 3 and a half quarters. I don't know what SP is doing, but it sure is getting old watching us bumble during the playoffs. I didnt understand the desire for long developing plays when the oline was getting their lunch ate. It wasn't until our final few drives where we started to have quick passes that we moved the ball. RailBoss, Rugby Saint II and RefsRobbedUs like this.

01-06-2020, 11:01 AM	#4
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by spkb25 I didnt understand the desire for long developing plays when the oline was getting their lunch ate. It wasn't until our final few drives where we started to have quick passes that we moved the ball. Exactly. Plus how many deep balls have you seen Drew complete this year? I thought I read a stat that said we had the least amount of big air yard plays. Ginn is still living on his name as a speedster and Brees does not have the arm. That's why Taysom was paired with Harris on that bomb.
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01-07-2020, 09:56 AM	#5
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs Exactly. Plus how many deep balls have you seen Drew complete this year? I thought I read a stat that said we had the least amount of big air yard plays. Ginn is still living on his name as a speedster and Brees does not have the arm. That's why Taysom was paired with Harris on that bomb. Have to disagree on the Taysom statement. When Taysom is in the game, defenses think it's 98% chance of a run. That's why Taysom's pass worked which was slightly under thrown by the way. SmashMouth likes this.

01-05-2020, 04:56 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Payton's Play Calling If you go back and watch clips from the “glory days” of the Saints offense we had four competent WR’s (Colston, Henderson, Meachem and Moore) to go with two pass catching RB’s and a TE. Our current offense is horrendous personnel-wise compared to that. spkb25, saintsfan1976, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

01-05-2020, 05:00 PM	#7
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Payton's Play Calling Don’t forget, you can’t just lose a guy like Max Unger and it not affect your interior line. ESPECIALLY someone with so much big game experience. But I think really, in the Saints glory days, they had a better interior o-line. Which gives Brees the pocket to turn any WR into a star. Well, unless they’re complete trash and can’t catch anything whatsoever

01-05-2020, 05:04 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Don’t forget, you can’t just lose a guy like Max Unger and it not affect your interior line. ESPECIALLY someone with so much big game experience. But I think really, in the Saints glory days, they had a better interior o-line. Which gives Brees the pocket to turn any WR into a star. Well, unless they’re complete trash and can’t catch anything whatsoever The season started with drops.... the season ended with drops. It's the playoffs, you must catch the ball. Trequan Smith dropped one in his paws. Ginn redeemed himself... but this begs the question - where in the F was Jared Cook all game? He's been lights out the past 4 games but for some reason he sits on the sidelines and shows up late in the 4th quarter, hustles and gets wide open, hauls in some key catches, and then that's it. WE NEEDED HIM THE ENTIRE GAME! spkb25, WillMacKenzie and Rugby Saint II like this.

01-05-2020, 05:07 PM	#9
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by Halo The season started with drops.... the season ended with drops. It's the playoffs, you must catch the ball. Trequan Smith dropped one in his paws. Ginn redeemed himself... but this begs the question - where in the F was Jared Cook all game? He's been lights out the past 4 games but for some reason he sits on the sidelines and shows up late in the 4th quarter, hustles and gets wide open, hauls in some key catches, and then that's it. WE NEEDED HIM THE ENTIRE GAME! The Brees and Brady both had similar issues, not enough weapons to use.