Payton's Play Calling

RailBoss · 01-06-2020, 07:36 AM

SP has the right weapon circulating Taysom around Brees, the Defense goes crazy when Hill is in the game. Problem is he didn't do enough of it on key plays

jeanpierre · 01-06-2020, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

SP has the right weapon circulating Taysom around Brees, the Defense goes crazy when Hill is in the game. Problem is he didn't do enough of it on key plays

They had no answer on that late drive to Taysom, NONE; then Payton pulled Taysom, Drew tried to do too much, and voilà, we gifted them the game...

Have no doubt we win that game if Payton doesn't call off the dogs with Taysom...

papz · 01-06-2020, 08:01 AM

The sweep play to Kamara on third and short had me absolutely livid. The two badly timed TO that we knew we were going to need in the fourth cost us that game.

It's sad that I've come to expect this sort of ending to our season every year. To further that sentiment that we need a 2nd receiver, it's been a problem for multiple seasons and it still hasn't been addressed. I don't know if it's a ego thing, but the fact that it's a known problem and we've done nothing to fix it is inexplicable. Someone needs to take accountability.

I also feel that it's time for Sean to relinquish is play calling duties and manage the team as a whole. It may damage his ego, but it needs to be done.

K Major · 01-06-2020, 08:28 AM

Credit Zimmer for staying committed to the run game. 40 attempts.

Saints ran 17 times all game. Recipe for an L. 5 carries for LM against his former team. Do you think he wouldn't have been motivated to run hard? You'd rather run gadget plays & laterals instead of feeding your 6'3 235 lb RB? 3rd and short .. u run a lateral ?

Coach seemed a bit unconcerned in that post game presser. He may want to look in the mirror.

dam1953 · 01-06-2020, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Credit Zimmer for staying committed to the run game. 40 attempts.

Saints ran 17 times all game. Recipe for an L. 5 carries for LM against his former team. Do you think he wouldn't have been motivated to run hard? You'd rather run gadget plays & laterals instead of feeding your 6'3 235 lb RB? 3rd and short .. u run a lateral ?

Coach seemed a bit unconcerned in that post game presser. He may want to look in the mirror.

Agree about coach looking a bit unconcerned. It may be that he understands that this fell squarely on him. My only thought about your run comments was that there weren't many holes to run through. For several games this year our run O looked like Mark Ingram's early years. It's hard to run with you are getting hit 2 yards in the backfield. Minnesota's D was setting the edge, daring us to run inside. With the level of our guard play, this likely wasn't a viable option. I do believe that better play action may have slowed the pass rush some.

Payton better figure it out quick, because opposing D's will look to this and the first ATL game for recipes of shutting down the Saints.

SmashMouth · 01-06-2020, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Credit Zimmer for staying committed to the run game. 40 attempts.

Saints ran 17 times all game. Recipe for an L. 5 carries for LM against his former team. Do you think he wouldn't have been motivated to run hard? You'd rather run gadget plays & laterals instead of feeding your 6'3 235 lb RB? 3rd and short .. u run a lateral ?

Coach seemed a bit unconcerned in that post game presser. He may want to look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by dam1953

Agree about coach looking a bit unconcerned. It may be that he understands that this fell squarely on him. My only thought about your run comments was that there weren't many holes to run through. For several games this year our run O looked like Mark Ingram's early years. It's hard to run with you are getting hit 2 yards in the backfield. Minnesota's D was setting the edge, daring us to run inside. With the level of our guard play, this likely wasn't a viable option. I do believe that better play action may have slowed the pass rush some.

Payton better figure it out quick, because opposing D's will look to this and the first ATL game for recipes of shutting down the Saints.

Until Peat was yanked due to his injury, the OL play sucked.

We need more fresh talented young beef up front.

dam1953 · 01-06-2020, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Until Peat was yanked due to his injury, the OL play sucked.

We need more fresh talented young beef up front.

Brees is as good or as bad as the O line. He's a short, non-mobile, 40+ year old QB. He needs a great O line to give him time and, most important, provide throwing lanes. He didn't have either against the Vikings.

blackangold · 01-06-2020, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Brees is as good or as bad as the O line. He's a short, non-mobile, 40+ year old QB. He needs a great O line to give him time and, most important, provide throwing lanes. He didn't have either against the Vikings.

He was sacked 3 times... we are acting as if that’s the end of the world. Once again he was the least sacked QB in the regular season. He seemed to have plenty of time on that pick he threw...

Not saying our O line played well, but dang, some of you will blame anyone and anything before looking at Drew.

I am thankful for Drew, but I am a saints fan first, and right now I am eager to see what Payton can do with a different QB. Last time he had a different QB we went 5-0 and the games weren’t close.

Rugby Saint II · 01-07-2020, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Brees is as good or as bad as the O line. He's a short, non-mobile, 40+ year old QB. He needs a great O line to give him time and, most important, provide throwing lanes. He didn't have either against the Vikings.

Preach on brother!!!

Rugby Saint II · 01-07-2020, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Until Peat was yanked due to his injury, the OL play sucked.

We need more fresh talented young beef up front.

Preach on brother!

01-06-2020, 07:36 AM	#1
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01-06-2020, 07:44 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by RailBoss SP has the right weapon circulating Taysom around Brees, the Defense goes crazy when Hill is in the game. Problem is he didn't do enough of it on key plays They had no answer on that late drive to Taysom, NONE; then Payton pulled Taysom, Drew tried to do too much, and voilà, we gifted them the game... Have no doubt we win that game if Payton doesn't call off the dogs with Taysom... RailBoss and MarchingOn like this.

01-06-2020, 08:01 AM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Payton's Play Calling The sweep play to Kamara on third and short had me absolutely livid. The two badly timed TO that we knew we were going to need in the fourth cost us that game. It's sad that I've come to expect this sort of ending to our season every year. To further that sentiment that we need a 2nd receiver, it's been a problem for multiple seasons and it still hasn't been addressed. I don't know if it's a ego thing, but the fact that it's a known problem and we've done nothing to fix it is inexplicable. Someone needs to take accountability. I also feel that it's time for Sean to relinquish is play calling duties and manage the team as a whole. It may damage his ego, but it needs to be done. spkb25, darksoul35 and K Major like this.
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01-06-2020, 08:28 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton's Play Calling Credit Zimmer for staying committed to the run game. 40 attempts. Saints ran 17 times all game. Recipe for an L. 5 carries for LM against his former team. Do you think he wouldn't have been motivated to run hard? You'd rather run gadget plays & laterals instead of feeding your 6'3 235 lb RB? 3rd and short .. u run a lateral ? Coach seemed a bit unconcerned in that post game presser. He may want to look in the mirror. Rsanders24, SmashMouth and jeanpierre like this.

01-06-2020, 08:37 AM	#5
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by K Major Credit Zimmer for staying committed to the run game. 40 attempts. Saints ran 17 times all game. Recipe for an L. 5 carries for LM against his former team. Do you think he wouldn't have been motivated to run hard? You'd rather run gadget plays & laterals instead of feeding your 6'3 235 lb RB? 3rd and short .. u run a lateral ? Coach seemed a bit unconcerned in that post game presser. He may want to look in the mirror. Agree about coach looking a bit unconcerned. It may be that he understands that this fell squarely on him. My only thought about your run comments was that there weren't many holes to run through. For several games this year our run O looked like Mark Ingram's early years. It's hard to run with you are getting hit 2 yards in the backfield. Minnesota's D was setting the edge, daring us to run inside. With the level of our guard play, this likely wasn't a viable option. I do believe that better play action may have slowed the pass rush some. Payton better figure it out quick, because opposing D's will look to this and the first ATL game for recipes of shutting down the Saints.
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01-06-2020, 08:41 AM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,782 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by K Major Credit Zimmer for staying committed to the run game. 40 attempts. Saints ran 17 times all game. Recipe for an L. 5 carries for LM against his former team. Do you think he wouldn't have been motivated to run hard? You'd rather run gadget plays & laterals instead of feeding your 6'3 235 lb RB? 3rd and short .. u run a lateral ? Coach seemed a bit unconcerned in that post game presser. He may want to look in the mirror. Originally Posted by dam1953 Agree about coach looking a bit unconcerned. It may be that he understands that this fell squarely on him. My only thought about your run comments was that there weren't many holes to run through. For several games this year our run O looked like Mark Ingram's early years. It's hard to run with you are getting hit 2 yards in the backfield. Minnesota's D was setting the edge, daring us to run inside. With the level of our guard play, this likely wasn't a viable option. I do believe that better play action may have slowed the pass rush some. Payton better figure it out quick, because opposing D's will look to this and the first ATL game for recipes of shutting down the Saints. Until Peat was yanked due to his injury, the OL play sucked. We need more fresh talented young beef up front. jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and dam1953 like this.

01-06-2020, 11:25 AM	#7
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by SmashMouth Until Peat was yanked due to his injury, the OL play sucked. We need more fresh talented young beef up front. Brees is as good or as bad as the O line. He's a short, non-mobile, 40+ year old QB. He needs a great O line to give him time and, most important, provide throwing lanes. He didn't have either against the Vikings. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-06-2020, 02:18 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by dam1953 Brees is as good or as bad as the O line. He's a short, non-mobile, 40+ year old QB. He needs a great O line to give him time and, most important, provide throwing lanes. He didn't have either against the Vikings. He was sacked 3 times... we are acting as if that’s the end of the world. Once again he was the least sacked QB in the regular season. He seemed to have plenty of time on that pick he threw... Not saying our O line played well, but dang, some of you will blame anyone and anything before looking at Drew. I am thankful for Drew, but I am a saints fan first, and right now I am eager to see what Payton can do with a different QB. Last time he had a different QB we went 5-0 and the games weren’t close. darksoul35 likes this.
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01-07-2020, 12:43 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by dam1953 Brees is as good or as bad as the O line. He's a short, non-mobile, 40+ year old QB. He needs a great O line to give him time and, most important, provide throwing lanes. He didn't have either against the Vikings. Preach on brother!!! SmashMouth and jeanpierre like this.

01-07-2020, 12:41 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by SmashMouth Until Peat was yanked due to his injury, the OL play sucked. We need more fresh talented young beef up front. Preach on brother! SmashMouth likes this.