Payton's Play Calling

dizzle88 · 01-06-2020, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He was sacked 3 times... we are acting as if that’s the end of the world. Once again he was the least sacked QB in the regular season. He seemed to have plenty of time on that pick he threw...

Not saying our O line played well, but dang, some of you will blame anyone and anything before looking at Drew.

I am thankful for Drew, but I am a saints fan first, and right now I am eager to see what Payton can do with a different QB. Last time he had a different QB we went 5-0 and the games weren’t close.

I'm eager to see what we can do without Payton. It was proved earlier in the season that regardless of QB, we can win if we run the ball and play defense.

Payton just refuses to commit to the run now. Gets way too pass happy and Brees either checks down or throws into double coverage, nothing in between.

K Major · 01-06-2020, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ginn is never open anymore.

Yep. Ted Ginn is done.

Saints cannot ignore the WR situation any longer. It cost us a chance to advance in the tournament.

Zimmer's back ground is all defense and he knew Sean P tendencies. He did what most were afraid of ... taking away our biggest threat, limiting Michael Thomas & daring other WR's to beat you.

This was one of the worst WR rosters NOT NAMED MT I've seen under Sean Payton in a long time.

dam1953 · 01-06-2020, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ginn is never open anymore.

And on the rare occasion he happens to be open, and Drew throws him the ball, there is a better than 50/50 chance he is going to drop it.

darksoul35 · 01-06-2020, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He was sacked 3 times... we are acting as if that’s the end of the world. Once again he was the least sacked QB in the regular season. He seemed to have plenty of time on that pick he threw...

Not saying our O line played well, but dang, some of you will blame anyone and anything before looking at Drew.

I am thankful for Drew, but I am a saints fan first, and right now I am eager to see what Payton can do with a different QB. Last time he had a different QB we went 5-0 and the games weren’t close.

To be fair though our defense was playing totally different in that 5-0 stretch. Brees didn't have much time but there is no excuse for him being loose with the ball in that situation.

RaginCajun83 · 01-06-2020, 07:53 PM

The possession where they forced the ball to Kamara three times and then punted still aggravates me plus I’m still don’t understand calling that deep pass for Brees that lead to his INT

SmashMouth · 01-06-2020, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. Ted Ginn is done.

Saints cannot ignore the WR situation any longer. It cost us a chance to advance in the tournament.

Zimmer's back ground is all defense and he knew Sean P tendencies. He did what most were afraid of ... taking away our biggest threat, limiting Michael Thomas & daring other WR's to beat you.

This was one of the worst WR rosters NOT NAMED MT I've seen under Sean Payton in a long time.

Ginn and SP cost Grayson an opportunity to shine this year.

ChrisXVI · 01-06-2020, 08:31 PM

I can’t believe we never tried something with Lil’Jordan Humphrey. A slant, a seam route where he could outmuscle a DB on a jump ball, a crossing route, anything...

I get not having trust yet or familiarity, but damn it man just try something.

K Major · 01-06-2020, 09:24 PM

All I can say is Sean Payton has his "favorites" on offense ... for whatever reason that is.

But I agree XVI, the Saints desperately needed a spark. Whose to say Humphrey couldn't make a play if you throw it in his direction?

Ginn should have been benched weeks ago. SP is stubborn.

"Saints became the first-ever team to lose in the Wild Card round of the NFL playoffs after completing a regular season with 13 or more wins".

Frustrating.

blackangold · 01-06-2020, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

And you consistently and almost instinctively blame Brees each time there is a loss. Being sacked 3 times is a lot and the worst part is that has nothing to do with how many times he was flushed from the pocket without even a second or two. You've been on this train for years bro. Everyone on the board knows it

Most definitely, I’ve been hoping for another QB for some time now. I think drew has gone down hill significantly and has proven there is no more deep ball left to be thrown. Some folks are finally coming to that conclusion as well. With all that said, there are many other reasons why we lost that game along with Drew, I focus on Drew because for years he gets a pass from everyone and that’s coming to an end.

st thomas · 01-06-2020, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Most definitely, I’ve been hoping for another QB for some time now. I think drew has gone down hill significantly and has proven there is no more deep ball left to be thrown. Some folks are finally coming to that conclusion as well. With all that said, there are many other reasons why we lost that game along with Drew, I focus on Drew because for years he gets a pass from everyone and that’s coming to an end.

We got whipped from the QB to the water boy it’s done ; regroup reload revenge

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01-06-2020, 03:10 PM	#31
dizzle88 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,036	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by blackangold He was sacked 3 times... we are acting as if that’s the end of the world. Once again he was the least sacked QB in the regular season. He seemed to have plenty of time on that pick he threw... Not saying our O line played well, but dang, some of you will blame anyone and anything before looking at Drew. I am thankful for Drew, but I am a saints fan first, and right now I am eager to see what Payton can do with a different QB. Last time he had a different QB we went 5-0 and the games weren’t close. I'm eager to see what we can do without Payton. It was proved earlier in the season that regardless of QB, we can win if we run the ball and play defense. Payton just refuses to commit to the run now. Gets way too pass happy and Brees either checks down or throws into double coverage, nothing in between.
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01-06-2020, 03:52 PM	#32
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 17,539 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ginn is never open anymore. Yep. Ted Ginn is done. Saints cannot ignore the WR situation any longer. It cost us a chance to advance in the tournament. Zimmer's back ground is all defense and he knew Sean P tendencies. He did what most were afraid of ... taking away our biggest threat, limiting Michael Thomas & daring other WR's to beat you. This was one of the worst WR rosters NOT NAMED MT I've seen under Sean Payton in a long time.

01-06-2020, 04:29 PM	#33
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,564	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ginn is never open anymore. And on the rare occasion he happens to be open, and Drew throws him the ball, there is a better than 50/50 chance he is going to drop it. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-06-2020, 07:14 PM	#34
darksoul35 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 928	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by blackangold He was sacked 3 times... we are acting as if that’s the end of the world. Once again he was the least sacked QB in the regular season. He seemed to have plenty of time on that pick he threw... Not saying our O line played well, but dang, some of you will blame anyone and anything before looking at Drew. I am thankful for Drew, but I am a saints fan first, and right now I am eager to see what Payton can do with a different QB. Last time he had a different QB we went 5-0 and the games weren’t close. To be fair though our defense was playing totally different in that 5-0 stretch. Brees didn't have much time but there is no excuse for him being loose with the ball in that situation.
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01-06-2020, 07:53 PM	#35
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,049	Re: Payton's Play Calling The possession where they forced the ball to Kamara three times and then punted still aggravates me plus I’m still don’t understand calling that deep pass for Brees that lead to his INT

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 28,632 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by K Major Yep. Ted Ginn is done. Saints cannot ignore the WR situation any longer. It cost us a chance to advance in the tournament. Zimmer's back ground is all defense and he knew Sean P tendencies. He did what most were afraid of ... taking away our biggest threat, limiting Michael Thomas & daring other WR's to beat you. This was one of the worst WR rosters NOT NAMED MT I've seen under Sean Payton in a long time. Ginn and SP cost Grayson an opportunity to shine this year.

01-06-2020, 08:31 PM	#37
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 10,170	Re: Payton's Play Calling I can’t believe we never tried something with Lil’Jordan Humphrey. A slant, a seam route where he could outmuscle a DB on a jump ball, a crossing route, anything... I get not having trust yet or familiarity, but damn it man just try something. neugey, SmashMouth and dam1953 like this.

01-06-2020, 09:24 PM	#38
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 17,539 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Payton's Play Calling All I can say is Sean Payton has his "favorites" on offense ... for whatever reason that is. But I agree XVI, the Saints desperately needed a spark. Whose to say Humphrey couldn't make a play if you throw it in his direction? Ginn should have been benched weeks ago. SP is stubborn. "Saints became the first-ever team to lose in the Wild Card round of the NFL playoffs after completing a regular season with 13 or more wins". Frustrating. ChrisXVI likes this.

01-06-2020, 09:38 PM	#39
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,330	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by spkb25 And you consistently and almost instinctively blame Brees each time there is a loss. Being sacked 3 times is a lot and the worst part is that has nothing to do with how many times he was flushed from the pocket without even a second or two. You've been on this train for years bro. Everyone on the board knows it Most definitely, I’ve been hoping for another QB for some time now. I think drew has gone down hill significantly and has proven there is no more deep ball left to be thrown. Some folks are finally coming to that conclusion as well. With all that said, there are many other reasons why we lost that game along with Drew, I focus on Drew because for years he gets a pass from everyone and that’s coming to an end.

01-06-2020, 10:09 PM	#40
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,623	Re: Payton's Play Calling Originally Posted by blackangold Most definitely, I’ve been hoping for another QB for some time now. I think drew has gone down hill significantly and has proven there is no more deep ball left to be thrown. Some folks are finally coming to that conclusion as well. With all that said, there are many other reasons why we lost that game along with Drew, I focus on Drew because for years he gets a pass from everyone and that’s coming to an end. We got whipped from the QB to the water boy it’s done ; regroup reload revenge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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