Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

WhoDat!656 · 01-06-2020, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. That’s the 2 most critical.

The TE not being set on the fake punt and Kimara moving as Brees spiked the ball before tying the game and costing the Saints 10 seconds.

CHA_CHING · 01-06-2020, 01:28 AM

This is what is wrong with this team.

Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays.

Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone.

We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT.

burningmetal · 01-06-2020, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

This is what is wrong with this team.

Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays.

Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone.

We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT.

I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play.

That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated.

OldMaid · 01-06-2020, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play.

That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated.

Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ?
It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly.

Saints knew this.
They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They knew they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about.

The whole team , minus some bright spots, just was off today.

burningmetal · 01-06-2020, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ?
It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly.

Saints knew this.
They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They know they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about.

The whole team , minus some bright spots, just were off today.

I'm not denying the many mistakes the team made, at all. I'm addressing what the poster said about the no-call, and how the Saints would have let them score anyway. I just fail to see how a would-be 3rd and goal from around the 20 would have been some sure thing for the Vikings.

claus808 · 01-06-2020, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. That’s the 2 most critical.

No. The missed TD after Thielen fumbled. Felt it once we kicked it was gonna be rough.

FinSaint · 01-06-2020, 05:49 AM

Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?!

That wasn't called an OPI either.

SaintFanQ · 01-06-2020, 06:13 AM

We were beaten on the day by the better team, its a simple as that! A lot of people were writing the Vikings off and saying we would beat them with ease! I didn't agree and unfortunately I was proved correct! You don't get into the playoff if you are not a good team! The Vikings did their homework on us and we couldn't find an answer to it! Roll on next season! WHO DAT!!!

vpheughan · 01-06-2020, 08:03 AM

OVERCONFIDENT EGGSPURTS!!!

Where's all the "What's the weather forecast for Green Bay" now? Hmmmm?

WhoDat!656 · 01-06-2020, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?!

That wasn't called an OPI either.

The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.

01-06-2020, 01:00 AM	#21
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. That’s the 2 most critical. The TE not being set on the fake punt and Kimara moving as Brees spiked the ball before tying the game and costing the Saints 10 seconds. darksoul35 likes this.

01-06-2020, 01:28 AM	#22
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings This is what is wrong with this team. Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays. Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone. We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT. OldMaid, bobdog86 and K Major like this.

01-06-2020, 04:55 AM	#23
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by CHA_CHING This is what is wrong with this team. Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays. Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone. We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT. I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play. That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated. Rsanders24 and OldMaid like this.

01-06-2020, 05:11 AM	#24
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by burningmetal I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play. That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated. Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ? It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly. Saints knew this. They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They knew they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about. The whole team , minus some bright spots, just was off today.

01-06-2020, 05:22 AM	#25
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by OldMaid Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ? It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly. Saints knew this. They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They know they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about. The whole team , minus some bright spots, just were off today. I'm not denying the many mistakes the team made, at all. I'm addressing what the poster said about the no-call, and how the Saints would have let them score anyway. I just fail to see how a would-be 3rd and goal from around the 20 would have been some sure thing for the Vikings. OldMaid likes this.

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claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. That’s the 2 most critical. No. The missed TD after Thielen fumbled. Felt it once we kicked it was gonna be rough.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?! That wasn't called an OPI either.

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SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 798	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings We were beaten on the day by the better team, its a simple as that! A lot of people were writing the Vikings off and saying we would beat them with ease! I didn't agree and unfortunately I was proved correct! You don't get into the playoff if you are not a good team! The Vikings did their homework on us and we couldn't find an answer to it! Roll on next season! WHO DAT!!! neugey and OldMaid like this.

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01-06-2020, 08:09 AM	#30
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by FinSaint Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?! That wasn't called an OPI either. The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.