Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

jeanpierre · 01-06-2020, 11:34 PM

Just gonna leave this right here...

WhoDat!656 · 01-06-2020, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Aikman still has butt-hurt from that 28-0 drubbing the Saints Dome Patrol gave him in his NFL debut, 1989, Wk 1...

Cowboys never played the Saints during their 90s run, avoiding the Dome Patrol after that ass kicking...

I was at that game!

Vrillon82 · 01-07-2020, 01:11 AM

Pat McAfee has been critical of Al Riveron all year. Some of the stuff that has happened has been very suspicious under Riverons watch.

Theirs also this snip I found on wiki:

On 19 September 2019, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady tweeted that he was turning off the Thursday Night Football game because he couldn't watch the "ridiculous penalties" for offensive holding[16][17] Two days later, Riveron held a conference call with 17 NFL referees to discuss the frequency with which holding was being called. The next day, holding penalties were called an average of 2.9 times per game, down from a rate of 5.7 times per game over the previous three weeks, leading to speculation that Brady may have influenced how NFL referees officiate games.[18]

saintfan · 01-07-2020, 09:20 AM

Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL.

The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction.

Anyone who watches the NFL much at all and understands football at even a basic level can see the refs are highly inconsistent at best. Personally I believe the league does what it can do to control the outcome. I'd argue the point with anyone because to me you'd have to be blind not to see it. The Saints aren't the only victims, just the most visible because of the very high-profile calls made (and deliberately not made) against them.

The same excuse was used against the Saints that was used against Seattle just a week earlier on a play that was clearly PI and clearly determined the outcome of the game. Al said in both cases it didn't rise to the level of a foul, and it both cases it is clear there was very deliberate PI.

You either see it or you won't allow yourself to admit it. I don't want to think the NFL is rigged, but you have to work hard to watch games without coming away with the conclusion that, well, the NFL is rigged.

jeanpierre · 01-07-2020, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL.

Let's go ForeverFan, step up your game, this situation is ripe with opportunities...

jeanpierre · 01-07-2020, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction.

*see Ohio State after they lost in the CF playoffs this year...

saintfan · 01-07-2020, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

*see Ohio State after they lost in the CF playoffs this year...

Bad calls happen. Refs are human. In the NFL it is systemic. That's hard to argue.

K Major · 01-07-2020, 11:11 AM

NFL needs a better system.

Alberto should have been fired a long time ago.

dam1953 · 01-07-2020, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

NFL needs a better system.

Alberto should have been fired a long time ago.

Like Goodell, maybe he knows too much?

Budsdrinker · 01-07-2020, 11:31 AM

Defensive play calling in OT really hurt. P-Rob in man coverage on Thielen on the big pass play, really? Then PJ on Rudolf in man coverage for the TD.
Score happened right in front of our seats and when Rudolf lined up with PJ across from him, I told my wife that's where the ball was going. 2 big mismatches at the wrong time.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by jeanpierre Aikman still has butt-hurt from that 28-0 drubbing the Saints Dome Patrol gave him in his NFL debut, 1989, Wk 1... Cowboys never played the Saints during their 90s run, avoiding the Dome Patrol after that ass kicking... I was at that game! Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-07-2020, 01:11 AM	#43
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Pat McAfee has been critical of Al Riveron all year. Some of the stuff that has happened has been very suspicious under Riverons watch. Theirs also this snip I found on wiki: On 19 September 2019, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady tweeted that he was turning off the Thursday Night Football game because he couldn't watch the "ridiculous penalties" for offensive holding[16][17] Two days later, Riveron held a conference call with 17 NFL referees to discuss the frequency with which holding was being called. The next day, holding penalties were called an average of 2.9 times per game, down from a rate of 5.7 times per game over the previous three weeks, leading to speculation that Brady may have influenced how NFL referees officiate games.[18] Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-07-2020, 09:20 AM	#44
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL. The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction. Anyone who watches the NFL much at all and understands football at even a basic level can see the refs are highly inconsistent at best. Personally I believe the league does what it can do to control the outcome. I'd argue the point with anyone because to me you'd have to be blind not to see it. The Saints aren't the only victims, just the most visible because of the very high-profile calls made (and deliberately not made) against them. The same excuse was used against the Saints that was used against Seattle just a week earlier on a play that was clearly PI and clearly determined the outcome of the game. Al said in both cases it didn't rise to the level of a foul, and it both cases it is clear there was very deliberate PI. You either see it or you won't allow yourself to admit it. I don't want to think the NFL is rigged, but you have to work hard to watch games without coming away with the conclusion that, well, the NFL is rigged. Rugby Saint II and darksoul35 like this.
	C'mon Man...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by saintfan Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL. *Let's go ForeverFan, step up your game, this situation is ripe with opportunities...*

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by saintfan The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction. *see Ohio State after they lost in the CF playoffs this year...

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by jeanpierre *see Ohio State after they lost in the CF playoffs this year... Bad calls happen. Refs are human. In the NFL it is systemic. That's hard to argue. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings NFL needs a better system. Alberto should have been fired a long time ago.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by K Major NFL needs a better system. Alberto should have been fired a long time ago. Like Goodell, maybe he knows too much?

01-07-2020, 11:31 AM	#50
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Defensive play calling in OT really hurt. P-Rob in man coverage on Thielen on the big pass play, really? Then PJ on Rudolf in man coverage for the TD. Score happened right in front of our seats and when Rudolf lined up with PJ across from him, I told my wife that's where the ball was going. 2 big mismatches at the wrong time.