Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen

jeanpierre · 02-09-2020, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I just can't see Sean Payton breaking from Dennis Allen especially since the defense carried us a lot this year and we finished 13-3. I believe Payton is loyal to a fault. Do you remember how long it took to get rid of his ineffective position coaches? That new group of coaches came in and took us to the next level on defense. Nielsen and Nolan have been integral parts to our success. We have actually developed players under their coaching who are well prepared. Nolan will be missed terribly I have a feeling. It's hard to find someone with his credentials and skill at communicating with his players. Hopefully, we've got his replacement ready to come to New Orleans.

Or having to admit mistakes?

The Dude · 01-18-2020, 01:05 PM

Earlier in the season the defense played way too loose in garbage time.
All in all our defense was absolutely elite until they left players like Apple on the field when the game was well in hand. Led to injuries which they never really recovered from.

Rugby Saint II · 01-18-2020, 05:38 PM

The basic argument is that DA can't close. I"ll have to totally agree on that point.

The defense seems unprepared going in and then brings the counter punches when DA makes adjustments. His best adjustments come at half time where he figures their game plan out. The worst ones come with just moments left in the game when he gets a brain freeze.

Basically, I feel like his defense is not prepared for different scenarios that occur in a game.....just the basic game plan. We should do better.

We've had talent that we've brought in but most of the players on defense regress and I believe that that falls on coaching. Specifically Dennis Allen! His specialty is the secondary and that's our weakness. "Nuff said!

K Major · 01-19-2020, 12:08 PM

IDK,

At times it appears the Saints defense is playing with 9 guys and only half on the back end know what is going on. I hate to bang on the defense because in today's "modern offense", it's hard to defend. A lot of teams (including the Niners end of the reg season) are giving up big plays, but when you see the same shortcomings year after year after year, it just gets old.

jeanpierre · 01-19-2020, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

IDK,

At times it appears the Saints defense is playing with 9 guys and only half on the back end know what is going on. I hate to bang on the defense because in today's "modern offense", it's hard to defend. A lot of teams (including the Niners end of the reg season) are giving up big plays, but when you see the same shortcomings year after year after year, it just gets old.

So we'd be somewhere between an incoherent, impractical scheme or failure of the position coach(s) to properly instruct the players on assignments and objectives and provide feedback to the coordinator?

K Major · 01-19-2020, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So we'd be somewhere between an incoherent, impractical scheme or failure of the position coach(s) to properly instruct the players on assignments and objectives and provide feedback to the coordinator?

Affirmative on all.

ChrisXVI · 01-19-2020, 01:56 PM

Do we know that Aaron Glenn is actually a good coach? Getting lucky with Lattimore falling to us seemed to boost Glenn’s reputation.

vpheughan · 01-19-2020, 03:21 PM

year after year after year..............

DC after DC. DC Gary Gibbs after DC Gregg Wiliams after DC Steve Spagnola after DC Rob Ryan after DC Dennis Allen. Two common threads, New Orleans Saints and HC Sean Payton. Maybe another example of how the Saints "ALWAYS" magic!

Danno · 01-19-2020, 04:18 PM

Dennis Allen isn't the reason our offense line couldn't block the Vikings or that our QB looked 100 years old.

AsylumGuido · 01-19-2020, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Dennis Allen isn't the reason our offense line couldn't block the Vikings or that our QB looked 100 years old.

That 100 year old QB is still better than almost every other in the league. And the fact that the line couldn't block would make any QB look 100 years old, no? Who was it on?

02-09-2020, 02:41 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I just can't see Sean Payton breaking from Dennis Allen especially since the defense carried us a lot this year and we finished 13-3. I believe Payton is loyal to a fault. Do you remember how long it took to get rid of his ineffective position coaches? That new group of coaches came in and took us to the next level on defense. Nielsen and Nolan have been integral parts to our success. We have actually developed players under their coaching who are well prepared. Nolan will be missed terribly I have a feeling. It's hard to find someone with his credentials and skill at communicating with his players. Hopefully, we've got his replacement ready to come to New Orleans. Or having to admit mistakes? K Major likes this.

01-18-2020, 01:05 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Earlier in the season the defense played way too loose in garbage time. All in all our defense was absolutely elite until they left players like Apple on the field when the game was well in hand. Led to injuries which they never really recovered from. skymike and MarchingOn like this.
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01-18-2020, 05:38 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen The basic argument is that DA can't close. I"ll have to totally agree on that point. The defense seems unprepared going in and then brings the counter punches when DA makes adjustments. His best adjustments come at half time where he figures their game plan out. The worst ones come with just moments left in the game when he gets a brain freeze. Basically, I feel like his defense is not prepared for different scenarios that occur in a game.....just the basic game plan. We should do better. We've had talent that we've brought in but most of the players on defense regress and I believe that that falls on coaching. Specifically Dennis Allen! His specialty is the secondary and that's our weakness. "Nuff said! skymike likes this.
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01-19-2020, 12:08 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen IDK, At times it appears the Saints defense is playing with 9 guys and only half on the back end know what is going on. I hate to bang on the defense because in today's "modern offense", it's hard to defend. A lot of teams (including the Niners end of the reg season) are giving up big plays, but when you see the same shortcomings year after year after year, it just gets old.

01-19-2020, 01:41 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by K Major IDK, At times it appears the Saints defense is playing with 9 guys and only half on the back end know what is going on. I hate to bang on the defense because in today's "modern offense", it's hard to defend. A lot of teams (including the Niners end of the reg season) are giving up big plays, but when you see the same shortcomings year after year after year, it just gets old. So we'd be somewhere between an incoherent, impractical scheme or failure of the position coach(s) to properly instruct the players on assignments and objectives and provide feedback to the coordinator?

01-19-2020, 03:48 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by jeanpierre So we'd be somewhere between an incoherent, impractical scheme or failure of the position coach(s) to properly instruct the players on assignments and objectives and provide feedback to the coordinator? Affirmative on all. Lord_Saint83 likes this.

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01-19-2020, 04:18 PM	#9
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Danno Dennis Allen isn't the reason our offense line couldn't block the Vikings or that our QB looked 100 years old. That 100 year old QB is still better than almost every other in the league. And the fact that the line couldn't block would make any QB look 100 years old, no? Who was it on?

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