Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen

Rugby Saint II · 02-09-2020, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

Everyone is to blame. From the coaches to the water boy. If there's a better DC out there than go him.

I just can't see Sean Payton breaking from Dennis Allen especially since the defense carried us a lot this year and we finished 13-3. I believe Payton is loyal to a fault. Do you remember how long it took to get rid of his ineffective position coaches? That new group of coaches came in and took us to the next level on defense. Nielsen and Nolan have been integral parts to our success. We have actually developed players under their coaching who are well prepared. Nolan will be missed terribly I have a feeling. It's hard to find someone with his credentials and skill at communicating with his players. Hopefully, we've got his replacement ready to come to New Orleans.

jeanpierre · 02-09-2020, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I just can't see Sean Payton breaking from Dennis Allen especially since the defense carried us a lot this year and we finished 13-3. I believe Payton is loyal to a fault. Do you remember how long it took to get rid of his ineffective position coaches? That new group of coaches came in and took us to the next level on defense. Nielsen and Nolan have been integral parts to our success. We have actually developed players under their coaching who are well prepared. Nolan will be missed terribly I have a feeling. It's hard to find someone with his credentials and skill at communicating with his players. Hopefully, we've got his replacement ready to come to New Orleans.

Or having to admit mistakes?

K Major · 02-09-2020, 04:07 PM

Where is the damn Whole Food butcher when you need him

jeanpierre · 02-09-2020, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Where is the damn Whole Food butcher when you need him

When I was in the city again this weekend, I went Uptown to the Whole Foods Market at Arabella Station; nobody wanted to own up to it when I asked...

I'll try the one on Vets near Causeway next...

WillMacKenzie · 02-09-2020, 07:11 PM

The french truck latte up front is...life. Pair it with one of the little chantilly cupcakes and THEN go shopping.

I buy way less after that

K Major · 09-22-2020, 06:04 PM

Bump …

Dennis Allen looked like he had seen a ghost last night. No 2nd half adjustments whatsoever. To see a TE roast us for almost 4 quarters was hard to watch.

Is it the players or scheme?

RailBoss · 09-23-2020, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

very provocative. and a lot less wacky than "we gotta get rid of Brees" talk.
definitely a pattern.

The State Rests its case.

I would like to add that our secondary, which should be DA's forte, should be named the Choke Patrol.

Sorry Man we can't use any part or reference to the word "Choke"
You see that team up there in Atlanta has all legal and trademark rights.

Words related to choke
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gosaints1 · 09-23-2020, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I haven't watched any of the games and only read you guys lost this past week after leading big. But SP is the problem qith the defense. He made spags a scapegoat and anyone could tell spags was installing a system that was going to take time ( and some frigan talent) to work. He just one another super bowl as a dCoord, but please keep blaming the coord. This is all on SP and all you have to do is see how many he has had. BTW not trying to be a dick to you guys, but youre not going to the super bowl.

Baloney. Coach Payton is not “THE” problem. All teams have good days/bad days, same for coaches. There is little “wrong” with this team, and its’ coaches. It is a transition time, nothing more, nothing less, team has an aged QB. It’s that simple. This team, with an aged QB still can go to the big dance. Personally, I like younger, hungrier players, over aging vets. But, that’s just me.

gosaints1 · 09-23-2020, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I think blaming a gazillion defensive coordinators for the defense never really being good enough isn't fair. SP can't keep his hands off

Once again, it’s not just one person here. And it’s not an indicator of the “whole” being bad. Last week’s game was very simple. One player, Waller, took it over and imposed his will on the Saints. The Saints refused to “match” that “refusing to fail” mentality.

Players do the playing, not the coaches. I refuse to hyper-analyze every play and what coulda, shoulda, woulda been. Like I said, the last game was on the players, refusing to stand up and challenge Waller when he asserted his dominance, which was early in the game.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 19,473	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by NOLA54 Everyone is to blame. From the coaches to the water boy. If there's a better DC out there than go him. I just can't see Sean Payton breaking from Dennis Allen especially since the defense carried us a lot this year and we finished 13-3. I believe Payton is loyal to a fault. Do you remember how long it took to get rid of his ineffective position coaches? That new group of coaches came in and took us to the next level on defense. Nielsen and Nolan have been integral parts to our success. We have actually developed players under their coaching who are well prepared. Nolan will be missed terribly I have a feeling. It's hard to find someone with his credentials and skill at communicating with his players. Hopefully, we've got his replacement ready to come to New Orleans.
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02-09-2020, 02:41 PM	#42
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 37,313 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I just can't see Sean Payton breaking from Dennis Allen especially since the defense carried us a lot this year and we finished 13-3. I believe Payton is loyal to a fault. Do you remember how long it took to get rid of his ineffective position coaches? That new group of coaches came in and took us to the next level on defense. Nielsen and Nolan have been integral parts to our success. We have actually developed players under their coaching who are well prepared. Nolan will be missed terribly I have a feeling. It's hard to find someone with his credentials and skill at communicating with his players. Hopefully, we've got his replacement ready to come to New Orleans. Or having to admit mistakes? K Major likes this.

02-09-2020, 04:07 PM	#43
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 17,541 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Where is the damn Whole Food butcher when you need him jeanpierre likes this.

02-09-2020, 06:39 PM	#44
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 37,313 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by K Major Where is the damn Whole Food butcher when you need him When I was in the city again this weekend, I went Uptown to the Whole Foods Market at Arabella Station; nobody wanted to own up to it when I asked... I'll try the one on Vets near Causeway next... K Major likes this.
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02-09-2020, 07:11 PM	#45
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen The french truck latte up front is...life. Pair it with one of the little chantilly cupcakes and THEN go shopping. I buy way less after that

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 17,541 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Bump … Dennis Allen looked like he had seen a ghost last night. No 2nd half adjustments whatsoever. To see a TE roast us for almost 4 quarters was hard to watch. Is it the players or scheme?

09-23-2020, 03:27 AM	#47
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,213	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by skymike very provocative. and a lot less wacky than "we gotta get rid of Brees" talk. definitely a pattern. The State Rests its case. I would like to add that our secondary, which should be DA's forte, should be named the Choke Patrol. Sorry Man we can't use any part or reference to the word "Choke" You see that team up there in Atlanta has all legal and trademark rights. Words related to choke clog, congest, drown, suffocate, kill, gag, gasp, strangle, stifle, fill, obstruct, close, check, overpower, suppress, noose, occlude, asphyxiate, dam, stop Attached Thumbnails Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-23-2020, 11:01 AM	#48
gosaints1 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 521	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by spkb25 I haven't watched any of the games and only read you guys lost this past week after leading big. But SP is the problem qith the defense. He made spags a scapegoat and anyone could tell spags was installing a system that was going to take time ( and some frigan talent) to work. He just one another super bowl as a dCoord, but please keep blaming the coord. This is all on SP and all you have to do is see how many he has had. BTW not trying to be a dick to you guys, but youre not going to the super bowl. Baloney. Coach Payton is not “THE” problem. All teams have good days/bad days, same for coaches. There is little “wrong” with this team, and its’ coaches. It is a transition time, nothing more, nothing less, team has an aged QB. It’s that simple. This team, with an aged QB still can go to the big dance. Personally, I like younger, hungrier players, over aging vets. But, that’s just me. iceshack149 likes this.

09-23-2020, 03:51 PM	#49
gosaints1 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 521	Re: Saints Defensive Coordinator Dennis Allen Originally Posted by spkb25 I think blaming a gazillion defensive coordinators for the defense never really being good enough isn't fair. SP can't keep his hands off Once again, it’s not just one person here. And it’s not an indicator of the “whole” being bad. Last week’s game was very simple. One player, Waller, took it over and imposed his will on the Saints. The Saints refused to “match” that “refusing to fail” mentality. Players do the playing, not the coaches. I refuse to hyper-analyze every play and what coulda, shoulda, woulda been. Like I said, the last game was on the players, refusing to stand up and challenge Waller when he asserted his dominance, which was early in the game.

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