What if the Saints Drafted Tua?

CHA_CHING · 02-09-2020, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

May want to review our current cap situation, it would be advantageous to bring Brees for a number of reasons...

With regards to the cap, reworking the numbers would spread the borrowed cap money from previous years out longer so the team can be viable in Free Agency...

Then there's the fact that admittedly his long range bomb (arm strength) is no longer there, he's still a Top 5 quarterback in the league...

And yes, I still support and like the idea of transitioning to Taysom Hill this season as well...

I'm pretty sure if Brees returns, we're probably going to overpay him and that will be another cap problem for us.

That is my current nightmare with the Saints. Letting Bridgewater walk, then overpaying Brees and yet another year of an offense that can easily be shut down by taking MT and Kamara out of the equation and blitzing Brees.

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2020, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

I'm pretty sure if Brees returns, we're probably going to overpay him and that will be another cap problem for us.

That is my current nightmare with the Saints. Letting Bridgewater walk, then overpaying Brees and yet another year of an offense that can easily be shut down by taking MT and Kamara out of the equation and blitzing Brees.

I agree with JP that Brees is definitely still a top five QB in the league today. What would you consider "overpaying"?

jeanpierre · 02-09-2020, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

I'm pretty sure if Brees returns, we're probably going to overpay him and that will be another cap problem for us.

That is my current nightmare with the Saints. Letting Bridgewater walk, then overpaying Brees and yet another year of an offense that can easily be shut down by taking MT and Kamara out of the equation and blitzing Brees.

Two things, first, look at Brees' QBR, still Top 3 QBR; and though I'd concede he's not the QB he was five years ago, he's still very much an elite-producing QB, so it would be copasetic if he's an avg Top 5 pay...

Second, look at Brees' contract recent seasons, he's actually been signing to the proverbial "home-town" discount (production to pay), so unless he and agent demand to be highest paid QB, let's just breathe...

Look, it's time to start transitioning to the next Quarterback, I'd be the first to admit that point...

That said, not reworking his cap number, which can only be done with an extension, we're not going to be able to address pressing needs at LG, WR, DB in Free Agency - we'll still have roster holes...

Not addressing those deficiencies, we'll be another quick out in the playoffs, there's no way Brees' contract is not getting re-worked from the Saints/Team Perspective to have a viable, competitive roster...

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2020, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Two things, first, look at Brees' QBR, still Top 3 QBR; and though I'd concede he's not the QB he was five years ago, he's still very much an elite-producing QB, so it would be copasetic if he's an avg Top 5 pay...

Second, look at Brees' contract recent seasons, he's actually been signing to the proverbial "home-town" discount (production to pay), so unless he and agent demand to be highest paid QB, let's just breathe...

Look, it's time to start transitioning to the next Quarterback, I'd be the first to admit that point...

That said, not reworking his cap number, which can only be done with an extension, we're not going to be able to address pressing needs at LG, WR, DB in Free Agency - we'll still have roster holes...

Not addressing those deficiencies, we'll be another quick out in the playoffs, there's no way Brees' contract is not getting re-worked from the Saints/Team Perspective to have a viable, competitive roster...

That's EXACTLY why I asked him what he considers "overpaying". I'm betting the figure he had in mind would actually be underpaying based upon Brees' value.

02-09-2020, 06:28 AM	#1
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: What if the Saints Drafted Tua? Originally Posted by jeanpierre May want to review our current cap situation, it would be advantageous to bring Brees for a number of reasons... With regards to the cap, reworking the numbers would spread the borrowed cap money from previous years out longer so the team can be viable in Free Agency... Then there's the fact that admittedly his long range bomb (arm strength) is no longer there, he's still a Top 5 quarterback in the league... And yes, I still support and like the idea of transitioning to Taysom Hill this season as well... I'm pretty sure if Brees returns, we're probably going to overpay him and that will be another cap problem for us. That is my current nightmare with the Saints. Letting Bridgewater walk, then overpaying Brees and yet another year of an offense that can easily be shut down by taking MT and Kamara out of the equation and blitzing Brees.

02-09-2020, 07:16 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: What if the Saints Drafted Tua? Originally Posted by CHA_CHING I'm pretty sure if Brees returns, we're probably going to overpay him and that will be another cap problem for us. That is my current nightmare with the Saints. Letting Bridgewater walk, then overpaying Brees and yet another year of an offense that can easily be shut down by taking MT and Kamara out of the equation and blitzing Brees. I agree with JP that Brees is definitely still a top five QB in the league today. What would you consider "overpaying"? Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-09-2020, 12:40 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What if the Saints Drafted Tua? Originally Posted by CHA_CHING I'm pretty sure if Brees returns, we're probably going to overpay him and that will be another cap problem for us. That is my current nightmare with the Saints. Letting Bridgewater walk, then overpaying Brees and yet another year of an offense that can easily be shut down by taking MT and Kamara out of the equation and blitzing Brees. Two things, first, look at Brees' QBR, still Top 3 QBR; and though I'd concede he's not the QB he was five years ago, he's still very much an elite-producing QB, so it would be copasetic if he's an avg Top 5 pay... Second, look at Brees' contract recent seasons, he's actually been signing to the proverbial "home-town" discount (production to pay), so unless he and agent demand to be highest paid QB, let's just breathe... Look, it's time to start transitioning to the next Quarterback, I'd be the first to admit that point... That said, not reworking his cap number, which can only be done with an extension, we're not going to be able to address pressing needs at LG, WR, DB in Free Agency - we'll still have roster holes... Not addressing those deficiencies, we'll be another quick out in the playoffs, there's no way Brees' contract is not getting re-worked from the Saints/Team Perspective to have a viable, competitive roster... AsylumGuido and K Major like this.
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02-09-2020, 12:50 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: What if the Saints Drafted Tua? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Two things, first, look at Brees' QBR, still Top 3 QBR; and though I'd concede he's not the QB he was five years ago, he's still very much an elite-producing QB, so it would be copasetic if he's an avg Top 5 pay... Second, look at Brees' contract recent seasons, he's actually been signing to the proverbial "home-town" discount (production to pay), so unless he and agent demand to be highest paid QB, let's just breathe... Look, it's time to start transitioning to the next Quarterback, I'd be the first to admit that point... That said, not reworking his cap number, which can only be done with an extension, we're not going to be able to address pressing needs at LG, WR, DB in Free Agency - we'll still have roster holes... Not addressing those deficiencies, we'll be another quick out in the playoffs, there's no way Brees' contract is not getting re-worked from the Saints/Team Perspective to have a viable, competitive roster... That's EXACTLY why I asked him what he considers "overpaying". I'm betting the figure he had in mind would actually be underpaying based upon Brees' value. jeanpierre likes this.