Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season

AsylumGuido · 02-18-2020, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

That was what Payton did with Bridgewater under center.

As soon as Brees came back, the balance went out the window and padding those stats and chasing the all time TD record was more important.

The writing is on the wall. Everyone knows how this is going to end come playoff time.

No reason to even watch the games given your omnipotent foresight.

The Dude · 02-18-2020, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No reason to even watch the games given your omnipotent foresight.

I love it when we get down two scores early in the game and fans start *****ing about not running the ball as much as they would like.

K Major · 02-20-2020, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

That was what Payton did with Bridgewater under center.

As soon as Brees came back, the balance went out the window and padding those stats and chasing the all time TD record was more important.

The writing is on the wall. Everyone knows how this is going to end come playoff time.

My belief is that when Brees exits left, the play calling will change & possibly a lot more balance.

ScottF · 02-18-2020, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

2020 season .. all eyes on the coaching staff.

Passing the ball 40+ times with an aging QB is a recipe for an L.

More balance, wearing defenses out late with the run game will become paramount and it helps your defense stay fresh.

Free Agency (G, WR) and the upcoming draft will be key.

we only passed 40+ four times last year
AK was obviously not 100%, and Murray didn't get into the swing of things until about game 6

We're fine

K Major · 02-18-2020, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

we only passed 40+ four times last year
AK was obviously not 100%, and Murray didn't get into the swing of things until about game 6

We're fine

I think it flew over your head Scott. *Sarcasm *

The Saints with Sean Payton are a "pass happy" offense. It's been that way most of his tenure. I've never understood that with him. Murray showed incredible promise when AK was out but for somehow the HC thinks the offense is better when AK is out there.

When we allowed Ingram to sign elsewhere, they decided to make AK the feature back. All of the stubbornness has led to force feeding.

Compare previous years when with the feature. The solution should have been to keep that formula with L Train. IMO the guy was criminally under utilized.

Our offense is getting more and more reliant on packages and mis matches.

L Train carried the ball 7 times against his former team in the playoffs made no sense whatsoever. Just because you are behind a score (7 vs Vikings) you don't need to abandon it. You know this man would have been motivated to run hard right there.

By the way, it's kind of hard to get in any rhythm when you touch the ball less than 10 times a game. He didn't get over 9 attempts until the Chicago game.

It is what it is but getting beat in your house wild card round to a marginal Kurt Cousins is hardly "fine".

Utah_Saint · 02-18-2020, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think it flew over your head Scott. *Sarcasm *

The Saints with Sean Payton are a "pass happy" offense. It's been that way most of his tenure. I've never understood that with him. Murray showed incredible promise when AK was out but for somehow the HC thinks the offense is better when AK is out there.

When we allowed Ingram to sign elsewhere, they decided to make AK the feature back. All of the stubbornness has led to force feeding.

Compare previous years when with the feature. The solution should have been to keep that formula with L Train. IMO the guy was criminally under utilized.

Our offense is getting more and more reliant on packages and mis matches.

L Train carried the ball 7 times against his former team in the playoffs made no sense whatsoever. Just because you are behind a score (7 vs Vikings) you don't need to abandon it. You know this man would have been motivated to run hard right there.

By the way, it's kind of hard to get in any rhythm when you touch the ball less than 10 times a game. He didn't get over 9 attempts until the Chicago game.

It is what it is but getting beat in your house wild card round to a marginal Kurt Cousins is hardly "fine".

The Saints haven't really been "pass happy", by comparison to the rest of the league, the last few years. It just seems that way because it was that way for so long.

NFL rankings by pass attempts
2019 - 13th
2018 - 21st
2017 - 19th

They're much more of a rushing team.

NFL rankings by rushing attempts
2019 - 15th
2018 - 6th
2017 - 5th

Drew's not being asked to do what he used to. He needs to be enough of a threat to keep the defense from stacking the box. With that quick release he had the lowest sack rate in the league. His accuracy is still insane. Even with the shortened passing game he still averaged 8.8 ay/a, for 5th in the league. As a frame of reference, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes averaged 8.9 and they sling the ball. He was the offensive player of the month for December, which shows he didn't wear down much as the season went on.

His coming back is absolutely the best case scenario for the 2020 Saints, in my humble opinion.

iceshack149 · 02-18-2020, 08:05 PM

This excellent news! Drew Brees gives the Saints a better chance to win than almost every single QB in the league. He's certainly better than any available QB.

Not only that, I absolutely love the man. What he's done for the Saints organization in his tenure there is immeasurable. I will be be saddened beyond measure when some of you guys get your wish and the Saints plug in a garden-variety QB into the system.

CHA_CHING · 02-18-2020, 03:39 PM

Well, this was always going to happen.

We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees.

Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage.

We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners.

AsylumGuido · 02-18-2020, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Well, this was always going to happen.

We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees.

Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage.

We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners.

Carnac the Magnificent speaks again.

jeanpierre · 02-19-2020, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Carnac the Magnificent speaks again.

Loved that character, my fav was when he reached over to 3 Stooges pinch Ed McMahon's nose and zipped his lip while Ed was citing his Funk & Wagnall's spiel, so Carson could keep his composure through the bit...

02-18-2020, 03:46 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by CHA_CHING That was what Payton did with Bridgewater under center. As soon as Brees came back, the balance went out the window and padding those stats and chasing the all time TD record was more important. The writing is on the wall. Everyone knows how this is going to end come playoff time. No reason to even watch the games given your omnipotent foresight. Papa Voodoo, jeanpierre and jlouhill like this.

02-18-2020, 05:13 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No reason to even watch the games given your omnipotent foresight. I love it when we get down two scores early in the game and fans start *****ing about not running the ball as much as they would like.
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02-20-2020, 03:30 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by CHA_CHING That was what Payton did with Bridgewater under center. As soon as Brees came back, the balance went out the window and padding those stats and chasing the all time TD record was more important. The writing is on the wall. Everyone knows how this is going to end come playoff time. My belief is that when Brees exits left, the play calling will change & possibly a lot more balance. halloween 65 likes this.

02-18-2020, 05:46 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by K Major 2020 season .. all eyes on the coaching staff. Passing the ball 40+ times with an aging QB is a recipe for an L. More balance, wearing defenses out late with the run game will become paramount and it helps your defense stay fresh. Free Agency (G, WR) and the upcoming draft will be key. we only passed 40+ four times last year AK was obviously not 100%, and Murray didn't get into the swing of things until about game 6 We're fine

02-18-2020, 06:56 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by ScottF we only passed 40+ four times last year AK was obviously not 100%, and Murray didn't get into the swing of things until about game 6 We're fine I think it flew over your head Scott. Sarcasm The Saints with Sean Payton are a "pass happy" offense. It's been that way most of his tenure. I've never understood that with him. Murray showed incredible promise when AK was out but for somehow the HC thinks the offense is better when AK is out there. When we allowed Ingram to sign elsewhere, they decided to make AK the feature back. All of the stubbornness has led to force feeding. Compare previous years when with the feature. The solution should have been to keep that formula with L Train. IMO the guy was criminally under utilized. Our offense is getting more and more reliant on packages and mis matches. L Train carried the ball 7 times against his former team in the playoffs made no sense whatsoever. Just because you are behind a score (7 vs Vikings) you don't need to abandon it. You know this man would have been motivated to run hard right there. By the way, it's kind of hard to get in any rhythm when you touch the ball less than 10 times a game. He didn't get over 9 attempts until the Chicago game. It is what it is but getting beat in your house wild card round to a marginal Kurt Cousins is hardly "fine". WillMacKenzie and jeanpierre like this.

02-18-2020, 07:57 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by K Major I think it flew over your head Scott. Sarcasm The Saints with Sean Payton are a "pass happy" offense. It's been that way most of his tenure. I've never understood that with him. Murray showed incredible promise when AK was out but for somehow the HC thinks the offense is better when AK is out there. When we allowed Ingram to sign elsewhere, they decided to make AK the feature back. All of the stubbornness has led to force feeding. Compare previous years when with the feature. The solution should have been to keep that formula with L Train. IMO the guy was criminally under utilized. Our offense is getting more and more reliant on packages and mis matches. L Train carried the ball 7 times against his former team in the playoffs made no sense whatsoever. Just because you are behind a score (7 vs Vikings) you don't need to abandon it. You know this man would have been motivated to run hard right there. By the way, it's kind of hard to get in any rhythm when you touch the ball less than 10 times a game. He didn't get over 9 attempts until the Chicago game. It is what it is but getting beat in your house wild card round to a marginal Kurt Cousins is hardly "fine". The Saints haven't really been "pass happy", by comparison to the rest of the league, the last few years. It just seems that way because it was that way for so long. NFL rankings by pass attempts 2019 - 13th 2018 - 21st 2017 - 19th They're much more of a rushing team. NFL rankings by rushing attempts 2019 - 15th 2018 - 6th 2017 - 5th Drew's not being asked to do what he used to. He needs to be enough of a threat to keep the defense from stacking the box. With that quick release he had the lowest sack rate in the league. His accuracy is still insane. Even with the shortened passing game he still averaged 8.8 ay/a, for 5th in the league. As a frame of reference, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes averaged 8.9 and they sling the ball. He was the offensive player of the month for December, which shows he didn't wear down much as the season went on. His coming back is absolutely the best case scenario for the 2020 Saints, in my humble opinion. ScottF, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-18-2020, 08:05 PM	#7
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season This excellent news! Drew Brees gives the Saints a better chance to win than almost every single QB in the league. He's certainly better than any available QB. Not only that, I absolutely love the man. What he's done for the Saints organization in his tenure there is immeasurable. I will be be saddened beyond measure when some of you guys get your wish and the Saints plug in a garden-variety QB into the system. AsylumGuido, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-18-2020, 03:39 PM	#8
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Well, this was always going to happen. We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees. Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage. We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners.

02-18-2020, 03:51 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Well, this was always going to happen. We'll now let Bridgewater walk and go to some other team who probably embarrasses us this coming season as we overpay a 41 year old, past his prime Brees. Get ready for another year of dink and dunk to pad the completion percentage stats which will lead to the Brees' apologists declaring "it's his best season ever!" while he ranks poorly in first down percentage, YPA, ANY/A and sack percentage. We're going 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5 and then losing in the first round of the playoffs. Book it. Who embarrasses us this time around is the question. I'm going with an NFC West opponent though. I can see it being any of them - Rams, Seahawks or Niners. Carnac the Magnificent speaks again. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-19-2020, 05:19 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Drew Is Coming Back For The 2020 Season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Carnac the Magnificent speaks again. Loved that character, my fav was when he reached over to 3 Stooges pinch Ed McMahon's nose and zipped his lip while Ed was citing his Funk & Wagnall's spiel, so Carson could keep his composure through the bit... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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