Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why

K Major · 02-20-2020, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The history of the Saints clouds the judgement of the fans. Only one 40 year old quarterback has won a Super Bowl. The future is now. Even I’m starting to come around on the idea of Tua. This dance is almost over.

The window isn't closed but it's dark as hell outside.

Papa Voodoo · 02-20-2020, 03:59 PM

At worst Taysom starts at 32 years old.

vpheughan · 02-20-2020, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Until just a few years ago, had about 50 VHS tapes of Larry Bird games recorded, even five of the rival Lakers; none of these teams today could shoot, pass, nor defend with those Lakers-Celtics teams - no way...

Mende Rudolf and Earl Strom would have a field day with current "NBA Players"

gulfgambler · 02-20-2020, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1230250710601732098

That's Bullsh!t !!!

Rsanders24 · 02-20-2020, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don’t get the love for Teddys play. I get the love for Teddy, great story, great guy, humble, and the ultimate team player.
The fact of the matter is he didn’t really do squat. “He” didn’t win anything, as stated above elite play from a healthy defense along with a good running game and ball control won 5 games. Brees on the other hand has single handily won games numerous times when our defense was dead last in just about every category.
Our defense was absolutely sick the first 1/4 season. I can’t remember a year when we got hit so hard with the injury bug.
Teddy may wind up being a decent Qb with the right team around him in the right system but he will never be elite.
I don’t see Teddy as the type of guy who will go out and win you games when you are down by two scores early. If Teddy had to play the full season I have my doubts we would have won another game.

Might be decent? Might not have won another game? I damn near take that as an insult. In a conservative offense in Minnesota he did what they asked him to do. Some of yall act like his numbers were trash and he did absolutely nothing to help the team win those games but it makes sense because half of y'all were ready to make Tayson a full time starting QB.

Payton wanted TB on his team because he knows he a good QB. Is he Brees? No, but with the right coaches and offense he can get the job done. I don't know whatelse he has to do to show people that he's a good QB. You dont pay 7.5M for an backup unless you think he can start and give you an above average performance. Dude had 9 TDs and 2 Ints in 5 games with a QB rating of 100. Yall act like he had no part of winning those games.

I'm good with Brees coming back but I'm not good with how yall a treating Teddy B. Be careful what you say and wish for.

The Dude · 02-20-2020, 06:44 PM

I’m betting Luck comes back in 2021. It’s not like keeping Brees will ruin our chances of ever getting a franchise Qb. There are tons of possibilities.
Teams will move on from the Tannahills and Trubiakies of the world and one or two of them are bound to flourish in a different system.
As long as Payton has anything to do with developing our next Qb we will be fine.

iceshack149 · 02-20-2020, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I have three words for anyone thinking that moving on from Brees is a good idea:

Billy Joe Tolliver

Let's just remember that QBing at the levels we've seen the last 15 years is going to be difficult to recreate once Brees moves on.

SFIAH

I just brought up the Billy Joe years in another thread. I loathed those guys.

halloween 65 · 02-21-2020, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I’m betting Luck comes back in 2021. It’s not like keeping Brees will ruin our chances of ever getting a franchise Qb. There are tons of possibilities.
Teams will move on from the Tannahills and Trubiakies of the world and one or two of them are bound to flourish in a different system.
As long as Payton has anything to do with developing our next Qb we will be fine.

So as to my knowledge Payton has not developed not 1 single qb. since he has been here. He got lucky with Brees and so far that's it,and Brees was already a vet. Payton hasn't even developed a backup unless you consider Hill as a backup. Reid and McCarthy have a better track record than Payton at developing rookie qb's. I might rethink that about the development part, he might get lucky with a vet, or could it be Hill?

K Major · 02-21-2020, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Reid and McCarthy have a better track record than Payton at developing rookie qb's. I might rethink that about the development part, he might get lucky with a vet, or could it be Hill?

IMO Taysom Hill is not that guy. You hear all of the talk "the next Steve Young is already in the building" .. what 2 years now? If he was in the building, why didn't he start over 2 Glove Teddy during that stretch when #9 was out?

My hope is that we draft a QB in April. The time is NOW to draft the heir apparent to Brees. Is it Jalen Hurts? Jordan Love? Justin Herbert? Montez?

blackangold · 02-21-2020, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We went 5-0 with our defense at its healthiest and the whole team playing for Brees. Bridgewater did a commendable job of treading water through that stretch with the help of Payton. I have no doubt your expectations are low. Yet, you do not have any idea of how THIS is going to end.

Sorry, Carnac, but YOU are not WE.

You can take YOUR sentiment here and apply it to YOUR point of view as well.

WE all have opinions.

How do YOU know our D was it's healthiest at that time? How do YOU know the whole team was playing for Brees?

02-20-2020, 02:01 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,027 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by rezburna The history of the Saints clouds the judgement of the fans. Only one 40 year old quarterback has won a Super Bowl. The future is now. Even I’m starting to come around on the idea of Tua. This dance is almost over. The window isn't closed but it's dark as hell outside. jeanpierre likes this.

02-20-2020, 03:59 PM	#22
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why At worst Taysom starts at 32 years old.

02-20-2020, 04:40 PM	#23
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by jeanpierre Until just a few years ago, had about 50 VHS tapes of Larry Bird games recorded, even five of the rival Lakers; none of these teams today could shoot, pass, nor defend with those Lakers-Celtics teams - no way... Mende Rudolf and Earl Strom would have a field day with current "NBA Players"
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02-20-2020, 05:11 PM	#24
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,095	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1230250710601732098 That's Bullsh!t !!! skymike likes this.

02-20-2020, 05:37 PM	#25
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by The Dude I don’t get the love for Teddys play. I get the love for Teddy, great story, great guy, humble, and the ultimate team player. The fact of the matter is he didn’t really do squat. “He” didn’t win anything, as stated above elite play from a healthy defense along with a good running game and ball control won 5 games. Brees on the other hand has single handily won games numerous times when our defense was dead last in just about every category. Our defense was absolutely sick the first 1/4 season. I can’t remember a year when we got hit so hard with the injury bug. Teddy may wind up being a decent Qb with the right team around him in the right system but he will never be elite. I don’t see Teddy as the type of guy who will go out and win you games when you are down by two scores early. If Teddy had to play the full season I have my doubts we would have won another game. Might be decent? Might not have won another game? I damn near take that as an insult. In a conservative offense in Minnesota he did what they asked him to do. Some of yall act like his numbers were trash and he did absolutely nothing to help the team win those games but it makes sense because half of y'all were ready to make Tayson a full time starting QB. Payton wanted TB on his team because he knows he a good QB. Is he Brees? No, but with the right coaches and offense he can get the job done. I don't know whatelse he has to do to show people that he's a good QB. You dont pay 7.5M for an backup unless you think he can start and give you an above average performance. Dude had 9 TDs and 2 Ints in 5 games with a QB rating of 100. Yall act like he had no part of winning those games. I'm good with Brees coming back but I'm not good with how yall a treating Teddy B. Be careful what you say and wish for. SaintGnome likes this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,086 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I have three words for anyone thinking that moving on from Brees is a good idea: Billy Joe Tolliver Let's just remember that QBing at the levels we've seen the last 15 years is going to be difficult to recreate once Brees moves on. SFIAH I just brought up the Billy Joe years in another thread. I loathed those guys.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by The Dude I’m betting Luck comes back in 2021. It’s not like keeping Brees will ruin our chances of ever getting a franchise Qb. There are tons of possibilities. Teams will move on from the Tannahills and Trubiakies of the world and one or two of them are bound to flourish in a different system. As long as Payton has anything to do with developing our next Qb we will be fine. So as to my knowledge Payton has not developed not 1 single qb. since he has been here. He got lucky with Brees and so far that's it,and Brees was already a vet. Payton hasn't even developed a backup unless you consider Hill as a backup. Reid and McCarthy have a better track record than Payton at developing rookie qb's. I might rethink that about the development part, he might get lucky with a vet, or could it be Hill?

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,027 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by halloween 65 Reid and McCarthy have a better track record than Payton at developing rookie qb's. I might rethink that about the development part, he might get lucky with a vet, or could it be Hill? IMO Taysom Hill is not that guy. You hear all of the talk "the next Steve Young is already in the building" .. what 2 years now? If he was in the building, why didn't he start over 2 Glove Teddy during that stretch when #9 was out? My hope is that we draft a QB in April. The time is NOW to draft the heir apparent to Brees. Is it Jalen Hurts? Jordan Love? Justin Herbert? Montez?

02-21-2020, 11:31 AM	#30
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Forecast: Drew Brees’ return is really good news, here’s why Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We went 5-0 with our defense at its healthiest and the whole team playing for Brees. Bridgewater did a commendable job of treading water through that stretch with the help of Payton. I have no doubt your expectations are low. Yet, you do not have any idea of how THIS is going to end. Sorry, Carnac, but YOU are not WE. You can take YOUR sentiment here and apply it to YOUR point of view as well. WE all have opinions. How do YOU know our D was it's healthiest at that time? How do YOU know the whole team was playing for Brees?

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