2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

dizzle88 · 11-12-2020, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Don’t forget, towards the end of last season we were starting Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony alongside Davis in disastrous fashion. I see this as Payton not taking any chances.

Yeah that was pretty horrendous, Davis was making plays all over the field in the playoffs because he was the only one capable of doing so.

K Major · 11-12-2020, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Don’t forget, towards the end of last season we were starting Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony alongside Davis in disastrous fashion. I see this as Payton not taking any chances.

Indeed.

Both were lost in space.

jeanpierre · 11-12-2020, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Don’t forget, towards the end of last season we were starting Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony alongside Davis in disastrous fashion. I see this as Payton not taking any chances.

Nor does Sean have any excuses...

ChrisXVI · 11-12-2020, 05:19 PM

Zach Baun is looking increasingly like a square peg-round hole pick. He was a 3-4 OLB who we wanted to convert to off-ball LB and it just reeks of Kikaha all over again.

jeanpierre · 11-12-2020, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Zach Baun is looking increasingly like a square peg-round hole pick. He was a 3-4 OLB who we wanted to convert to off-ball LB and it just reeks of Kikaha all over again.

Another multi-pick trade-up investment. It's early, but when you move up for a guy, he should have a little more juice than the average pick and be ready to contribute immediately...

dizzle88 · 11-12-2020, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Another multi-pick trade-up investment. It's early, but when you move up for a guy, he should have a little more juice than the average pick and be ready to contribute immediately...

I feel like the last few drafts have been more and more bizarre.

We've traded up multiple times for players that just get released before the season starts or never see the field.

It doesn't feel like the Jeff Ireland drafts of old, which makes me think someone else is getting a little too involved again.

ChrisXVI · 11-12-2020, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Another multi-pick trade-up investment. It's early, but when you move up for a guy, he should have a little more juice than the average pick and be ready to contribute immediately...

Well I can say this regarding Baun, Payton said post-draft that they envisioned him as a Mike. With such an abbreviated offseason and no preseason it’s entirely possible that he just hasn’t had the practice time to make that transition. Instead, in order to get him on the field in some capacity they’ve used him in his college role rushing the passer a couple snaps per game.

jeanpierre · 11-12-2020, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Well I can say this regarding Baun, Payton said post-draft that they envisioned him as a Mike. With such an abbreviated offseason and no preseason it’s entirely possible that he just hasn’t had the practice time to make that transition. Instead, in order to get him on the field in some capacity they’ve used him in his college role rushing the passer a couple snaps per game.

We just acquired Kwon Alexander; Kwon and Demario are now you're likely Mike and Will moving forward, so that leaves Baun where? Replacing a likely departing Anzalone at the Sam (salary cap) next season...

ChrisXVI · 11-14-2020, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We just acquired Kwon Alexander; Kwon and Demario are now you're likely Mike and Will moving forward, so that leaves Baun where? Replacing a likely departing Anzalone at the Sam (salary cap) next season...

Kwon’s cap hit next season is like $13 mil with no dead money if we release him. It’s entirely possible that Kwon isn’t on the team next season if he doesn’t show enough to warrant a restructure/extension.

K Major · 11-12-2020, 09:24 PM

I think in due time Baun will be a good LB in New Orleans but we play quite a bit of nickel. A 3rd rounder with no training camp isn't going to make an impact right away.

My concern is how he's coached up.

11-12-2020, 07:28 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,696	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Don’t forget, towards the end of last season we were starting Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony alongside Davis in disastrous fashion. I see this as Payton not taking any chances. Yeah that was pretty horrendous, Davis was making plays all over the field in the playoffs because he was the only one capable of doing so.

11-12-2020, 08:13 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,920 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Don’t forget, towards the end of last season we were starting Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony alongside Davis in disastrous fashion. I see this as Payton not taking any chances. Indeed. Both were lost in space.

11-12-2020, 08:38 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Don’t forget, towards the end of last season we were starting Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony alongside Davis in disastrous fashion. I see this as Payton not taking any chances. Nor does Sean have any excuses...

11-12-2020, 05:19 PM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Zach Baun is looking increasingly like a square peg-round hole pick. He was a 3-4 OLB who we wanted to convert to off-ball LB and it just reeks of Kikaha all over again.

11-12-2020, 08:39 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Zach Baun is looking increasingly like a square peg-round hole pick. He was a 3-4 OLB who we wanted to convert to off-ball LB and it just reeks of Kikaha all over again. *Another multi-pick trade-up investment. It's early, but when you move up for a guy, he should have a little more juice than the average pick and be ready to contribute immediately...*

11-12-2020, 08:55 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,696	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre *Another multi-pick trade-up investment. It's early, but when you move up for a guy, he should have a little more juice than the average pick and be ready to contribute immediately...* I feel like the last few drafts have been more and more bizarre. We've traded up multiple times for players that just get released before the season starts or never see the field. It doesn't feel like the Jeff Ireland drafts of old, which makes me think someone else is getting a little too involved again.

11-12-2020, 09:04 PM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre *Another multi-pick trade-up investment. It's early, but when you move up for a guy, he should have a little more juice than the average pick and be ready to contribute immediately...* Well I can say this regarding Baun, Payton said post-draft that they envisioned him as a Mike. With such an abbreviated offseason and no preseason it’s entirely possible that he just hasn’t had the practice time to make that transition. Instead, in order to get him on the field in some capacity they’ve used him in his college role rushing the passer a couple snaps per game.

11-12-2020, 10:34 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Well I can say this regarding Baun, Payton said post-draft that they envisioned him as a Mike. With such an abbreviated offseason and no preseason it’s entirely possible that he just hasn’t had the practice time to make that transition. Instead, in order to get him on the field in some capacity they’ve used him in his college role rushing the passer a couple snaps per game. We just acquired Kwon Alexander; Kwon and Demario are now you're likely Mike and Will moving forward, so that leaves Baun where? Replacing a likely departing Anzalone at the Sam (salary cap) next season...
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11-14-2020, 04:56 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre We just acquired Kwon Alexander; Kwon and Demario are now you're likely Mike and Will moving forward, so that leaves Baun where? Replacing a likely departing Anzalone at the Sam (salary cap) next season... Kwon’s cap hit next season is like $13 mil with no dead money if we release him. It’s entirely possible that Kwon isn’t on the team next season if he doesn’t show enough to warrant a restructure/extension.

11-12-2020, 09:24 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,920 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook I think in due time Baun will be a good LB in New Orleans but we play quite a bit of nickel. A 3rd rounder with no training camp isn't going to make an impact right away. My concern is how he's coached up.

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