Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision

halloween 65 · 04-14-2020, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

CMC has proven to be able to handle a full workload, Kamara got hurt when his usage went up. He is worth around 10m nothing more.

I'm thinking more of 7 to 9 mil max.

shawnkytonk · 04-14-2020, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm thinking more of 7 to 9 mil max.

Pffft..........you might not like it, but he's worth more that that. Devonta Freeman made over 8 last year. Melvin Gordon is making 8 mil per the next 2 seasons guaranteed. He's far better than either of those guys.

halloween 65 · 04-14-2020, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Pffft..........you might not like it, but he's worth more that that. Devonta Freeman made over 8 last year. Melvin Gordon is making 8 mil per the next 2 seasons guaranteed. He's far better than either of those guys.

On the flipside I don't think he's worth Drake money 8.5 or Henry at 10.5. Not better than Cook in Minny either. Tried that experiment and didn't work, Kamara isn't a 3 down back. More of a specialty role from what I see. Gonna depend on the worth of that role.

FinSaint · 04-15-2020, 04:59 AM

Aren't there significant fines for each practise a player holds out off under the new CBA?!

I think I heard it being mentioned somewhere - that it was a real deterrant now under the new CBA.

TheOak · 04-15-2020, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

CMC has proven to be able to handle a full workload, Kamara got hurt when his usage went up. He is worth around 10m nothing more.

Sorry but that is an incorrect assumption. In 2019 he did not exceed 2018 snap counts, carries or receptions which negates utilization as an injury driver.

He had knee issues in college but last season was a high ankle sprain.

The Dude · 04-15-2020, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Neither do Alvin Kamara's. Before last year's injury, he was looking like the second coming of Gayle Sayers. That doesn't happen. I really want to see what he looks like this year if he's really 100%.

People forget he missed games, played injured, and still had 1000k all purpose yards. It’s not like he outright sucked.
He’s no MaCaffery but he’s damn important to our team.
It all depends on what other teams are going to give up.
I think it’s way more likely they sign him if this is in fact Drew’s last season.

Rugby Saint II · 04-15-2020, 01:40 PM

I believe that Christian McCaffrey reset the bar and Alvin wants to high jump over the bar. On social media it looks like he's getting ready for a big pay day. However, nothing looks right on social media. Social media is the scourge of modern day civilization!

Anyway, I hope we keep AK. He's fun as hell to watch especially before he gets hurt which limits his explosiveness.

voodooido · 04-15-2020, 08:29 PM

I would not touch him until the end of the year. Make him earn that big check. If he wants to move on after a big year then tag him and make someone pay for him.

shawnkytonk · 04-15-2020, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

On the flipside I don't think he's worth Drake money 8.5 or Henry at 10.5. Not better than Cook in Minny either. Tried that experiment and didn't work, Kamara isn't a 3 down back. More of a specialty role from what I see. Gonna depend on the worth of that role.

Definitely worth more than Drake. Henry is debatable. He didn't break out until this past year honestly. Cook is a beast, but he has problems staying healthy.

saintsfan1976 · 04-15-2020, 10:58 PM

Sanders will help open things up for Kamara. I believe a lot of the issues last year were lack of options for Brees.

04-14-2020, 06:39 PM	#31
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs CMC has proven to be able to handle a full workload, Kamara got hurt when his usage went up. He is worth around 10m nothing more. I'm thinking more of 7 to 9 mil max.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm thinking more of 7 to 9 mil max. Pffft..........you might not like it, but he's worth more that that. Devonta Freeman made over 8 last year. Melvin Gordon is making 8 mil per the next 2 seasons guaranteed. He's far better than either of those guys. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Pffft..........you might not like it, but he's worth more that that. Devonta Freeman made over 8 last year. Melvin Gordon is making 8 mil per the next 2 seasons guaranteed. He's far better than either of those guys. On the flipside I don't think he's worth Drake money 8.5 or Henry at 10.5. Not better than Cook in Minny either. Tried that experiment and didn't work, Kamara isn't a 3 down back. More of a specialty role from what I see. Gonna depend on the worth of that role.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Aren't there significant fines for each practise a player holds out off under the new CBA?! I think I heard it being mentioned somewhere - that it was a real deterrant now under the new CBA.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs CMC has proven to be able to handle a full workload, Kamara got hurt when his usage went up. He is worth around 10m nothing more. Sorry but that is an incorrect assumption. In 2019 he did not exceed 2018 snap counts, carries or receptions which negates utilization as an injury driver. He had knee issues in college but last season was a high ankle sprain.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Neither do Alvin Kamara's. Before last year's injury, he was looking like the second coming of Gayle Sayers. That doesn't happen. I really want to see what he looks like this year if he's really 100%. People forget he missed games, played injured, and still had 1000k all purpose yards. It’s not like he outright sucked. He’s no MaCaffery but he’s damn important to our team. It all depends on what other teams are going to give up. I think it’s way more likely they sign him if this is in fact Drew’s last season.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision I believe that Christian McCaffrey reset the bar and Alvin wants to high jump over the bar. On social media it looks like he's getting ready for a big pay day. However, nothing looks right on social media. Social media is the scourge of modern day civilization! Anyway, I hope we keep AK. He's fun as hell to watch especially before he gets hurt which limits his explosiveness.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by halloween 65 On the flipside I don't think he's worth Drake money 8.5 or Henry at 10.5. Not better than Cook in Minny either. Tried that experiment and didn't work, Kamara isn't a 3 down back. More of a specialty role from what I see. Gonna depend on the worth of that role. Definitely worth more than Drake. Henry is debatable. He didn't break out until this past year honestly. Cook is a beast, but he has problems staying healthy.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Sanders will help open things up for Kamara. I believe a lot of the issues last year were lack of options for Brees.