Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision

The Dude · 04-15-2020, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Neither do Alvin Kamara's. Before last year's injury, he was looking like the second coming of Gayle Sayers. That doesn't happen. I really want to see what he looks like this year if he's really 100%.

People forget he missed games, played injured, and still had 1000k all purpose yards. It’s not like he outright sucked.
He’s no MaCaffery but he’s damn important to our team.
It all depends on what other teams are going to give up.
I think it’s way more likely they sign him if this is in fact Drew’s last season.

saintsfan1976 · 04-13-2020, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We spent 50+ mil on Andrus Peat. Regardless of how much we think someone is worth, if Payton likes them, he'll want to pay them.

I personally think it's a bad idea, but unfortunately guys like Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas dont grow on trees.

We signed Peat for $33MM guaranteed. Not 50.

dizzle88 · 04-14-2020, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We signed Peat for $33MM guaranteed. Not 50.

I was referring to the total price of the contract, 57.5 mil.

AsylumGuido · 04-14-2020, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I was referring to the total price of the contract, 57.5 mil.

That is meaningless. Only the guaranteed amount matters. Total numbers only apply to "blow up the skirt" of the player. They rarely ever come to fruition.

And even "guaranteed" amounts are not chiseled in stone as some only become "guaranteed" if the player is still on the roster.

ChrisXVI · 04-13-2020, 06:15 PM

“Here I come...”

Yeah, he’s looking for that kind of money.

rezburna · 04-13-2020, 07:08 PM

He’ll have a career year. Why? Contract year.

saintsfan1976 · 04-13-2020, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

He’ll have a career year. Why? Contract year.

Will he hold out? That's the real question. I would.

rezburna · 04-14-2020, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Will he hold out? That's the real question. I would.

Great question. I would too. Especially as a running back. This is his only chance at a big payday.

blackangold · 04-13-2020, 10:13 PM

It would be a mistake to pay more than 10m per year. RBs are a product of the system and O line. Also, they are often injured and rarely come back from injuries well.

That all said, we just signed Peat to the single dumbest contract I have seen so anything can happen.

Edit:
Others posted about RBs not growing on trees... I’d disagree with that for Payton. He knows how to scheme and be effective with any RB. Outside of 2010 (injuries) when have we had poor RBs? You all remember K. Robinson right? People compared home to Curtis Martin lol... he sucked when he left.

I appreciate AK, but he isn’t worth losing another good vital player in order to pay him.

K Major · 04-13-2020, 10:31 PM

Well based on AK's production in 2019, the Saints front office brass should allow him to play out 2020 (assuming we do have a season) for his cap hit of 2M, then reassess his worth in a year when you have the option to let him hit Free Agency, franchise him or extend.

He will eventually get paid, however not C McCaffery type coin.

04-15-2020, 11:16 AM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Neither do Alvin Kamara's. Before last year's injury, he was looking like the second coming of Gayle Sayers. That doesn't happen. I really want to see what he looks like this year if he's really 100%. People forget he missed games, played injured, and still had 1000k all purpose yards. It’s not like he outright sucked. He’s no MaCaffery but he’s damn important to our team. It all depends on what other teams are going to give up. I think it’s way more likely they sign him if this is in fact Drew’s last season.
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04-13-2020, 08:58 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by dizzle88 We spent 50+ mil on Andrus Peat. Regardless of how much we think someone is worth, if Payton likes them, he'll want to pay them. I personally think it's a bad idea, but unfortunately guys like Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas dont grow on trees. We signed Peat for $33MM guaranteed. Not 50. Beastmode likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,538	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We signed Peat for $33MM guaranteed. Not 50. I was referring to the total price of the contract, 57.5 mil.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by dizzle88 I was referring to the total price of the contract, 57.5 mil. That is meaningless. Only the guaranteed amount matters. Total numbers only apply to "blow up the skirt" of the player. They rarely ever come to fruition. And even "guaranteed" amounts are not chiseled in stone as some only become "guaranteed" if the player is still on the roster.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Twitter “Here I come...” Yeah, he’s looking for that kind of money.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,109	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision He’ll have a career year. Why? Contract year. leilung, jlouhill, darksoul35 and 2 others like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by rezburna He’ll have a career year. Why? Contract year. Will he hold out? That's the real question. I would.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,109	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Will he hold out? That's the real question. I would. Great question. I would too. Especially as a running back. This is his only chance at a big payday.

04-13-2020, 10:13 PM	#9
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision It would be a mistake to pay more than 10m per year. RBs are a product of the system and O line. Also, they are often injured and rarely come back from injuries well. That all said, we just signed Peat to the single dumbest contract I have seen so anything can happen. Edit: Others posted about RBs not growing on trees... I’d disagree with that for Payton. He knows how to scheme and be effective with any RB. Outside of 2010 (injuries) when have we had poor RBs? You all remember K. Robinson right? People compared home to Curtis Martin lol... he sucked when he left. I appreciate AK, but he isn’t worth losing another good vital player in order to pay him. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara looms as Saints' next big contract decision Well based on AK's production in 2019, the Saints front office brass should allow him to play out 2020 (assuming we do have a season) for his cap hit of 2M, then reassess his worth in a year when you have the option to let him hit Free Agency, franchise him or extend. He will eventually get paid, however not C McCaffery type coin.