IF Tua falls....

saintsfan1976 · 04-20-2020, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

JP ~ WPT-R is an IQ test and there isnt much preperation that a person can do. Also, if you could and did teach someone how to score better on an IQ test, the results would be meaningless. They didn't have the IQ to sort it for themselves.

For what it is worth, if I am about to hire someone for $400k+ a year.. I want them to take the WPT-R, IQ, Color Blind test, Rorscach Test, they may even take the Pepsi Challenge.

Where do I apply?

voodooido · 04-20-2020, 09:34 AM

If he falls to 24 take him in a heartbeat. If I were to move up because of a qb slipping it would be for Hebert. He has the skills. Tua has the team around him making him look better than what he really was

lee909 · 04-21-2020, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

If he falls to 24 take him in a heartbeat. If I were to move up because of a qb slipping it would be for Hebert. He has the skills. Tua has the team around him making him look better than what he really was

Listen to a podcast the other day and I think it was a PFF analyst saying Herbert is the bust QB. He misses something like 4 or 5 times the open throws the others do. Not drops, bad routes but outright misses his receivers. From what I've read he will turn the ball over like crazy in the pros.

jeanpierre · 04-21-2020, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

JP ~ WPT-R is an IQ test and there isnt much preperation that a person can do. Also, if you could and did teach someone how to score better on an IQ test, the results would be meaningless. They didn't have the IQ to sort it for themselves.

For what it is worth, if I am about to hire someone for $400k+ a year.. I want them to take the WPT-R, IQ, Color Blind test, Rorscach Test, they may even take the Pepsi Challenge.

Very Familiar with the test, as I've taken it. What I was getting at was taking the exam cold vs taking a practice exam...

Anecdotally speaking, many folks test poorly because of anxiety(s) of the examination - taking practice exams, familiarity with the question types, will yield better testing results...

Obviously you can't fake intelligence (though some do try, especially congressmen),

...but many players are intelligent, but don't test well because of a lack of familiarity with those exams...

lee909 · 04-21-2020, 01:54 PM

I was talking to soneone the other day about the scores.

Don't trust them at all.

Cruize · 04-21-2020, 06:08 PM

He won't fall to the Saints. The best possible outcome in the draft for Tua and the Saints would be if he did. Tua could sit a year. The Saints would have an All-Pro for the next 15 years. I wish the Saints would pull a Davenport type deal to draft DT Brown myself.

Euphoria · 04-22-2020, 05:49 PM

If he falls to 24 he is BPA.
The Saints will draft BPA.
I don't see what is the debate. Moving up to get him... I am not in favor of.

shawnkytonk · 04-22-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

an All-Pro for the next 15 years.

This is more unlikely to happen than likely.

SmashMouth · 04-23-2020, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

The scores should have remained confidential, yet every year they conveniently leak a week or so before draft day.

BTW, an updated wonderlic score for Tua was 19 and Jalen Hurts 21.

Nawhhh... keep them open to the public. It is after all our dollars funding their soon to be lavish lifestyles. If the kids can't deal with this smallish issue, they're not good enough material. Besides, we need something to banter about during the off-season.

04-20-2020, 08:43 AM	#31
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,534 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IF Tua falls.... Originally Posted by TheOak JP ~ WPT-R is an IQ test and there isnt much preperation that a person can do. Also, if you could and did teach someone how to score better on an IQ test, the results would be meaningless. They didn't have the IQ to sort it for themselves. For what it is worth, if I am about to hire someone for $400k+ a year.. I want them to take the WPT-R, IQ, Color Blind test, Rorscach Test, they may even take the Pepsi Challenge. Where do I apply? jeanpierre likes this.

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04-21-2020, 01:13 PM	#33
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,721 Blog Entries: 1	Re: IF Tua falls.... Originally Posted by voodooido If he falls to 24 take him in a heartbeat. If I were to move up because of a qb slipping it would be for Hebert. He has the skills. Tua has the team around him making him look better than what he really was Listen to a podcast the other day and I think it was a PFF analyst saying Herbert is the bust QB. He misses something like 4 or 5 times the open throws the others do. Not drops, bad routes but outright misses his receivers. From what I've read he will turn the ball over like crazy in the pros. jeanpierre likes this.

04-21-2020, 01:35 PM	#34
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: IF Tua falls.... Originally Posted by TheOak JP ~ WPT-R is an IQ test and there isnt much preperation that a person can do. Also, if you could and did teach someone how to score better on an IQ test, the results would be meaningless. They didn't have the IQ to sort it for themselves. For what it is worth, if I am about to hire someone for $400k+ a year.. I want them to take the WPT-R, IQ, Color Blind test, Rorscach Test, they may even take the Pepsi Challenge. Very Familiar with the test, as I've taken it. What I was getting at was taking the exam cold vs taking a practice exam... Anecdotally speaking, many folks test poorly because of anxiety(s) of the examination - taking practice exams, familiarity with the question types, will yield better testing results... Obviously you can't fake intelligence (though some do try, especially congressmen), ...but many players are intelligent, but don't test well because of a lack of familiarity with those exams... SmashMouth and K Major like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,979 Blog Entries: 29	Re: IF Tua falls.... Originally Posted by K Major The scores should have remained confidential, yet every year they conveniently leak a week or so before draft day. BTW, an updated wonderlic score for Tua was 19 and Jalen Hurts 21. Nawhhh... keep them open to the public. It is after all our dollars funding their soon to be lavish lifestyles. If the kids can't deal with this smallish issue, they're not good enough material. Besides, we need something to banter about during the off-season.