Saints Draft Days Official Thread

spkb25 · 04-24-2020, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Maybe Jimmie graham 2.0

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No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too

shawnkytonk · 04-24-2020, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too

Well, Jimmy didn't do much when he left NO. Jimmy didn't have this guys resume coming into the league either. I'm just going to trust the process.

spkb25 · 04-24-2020, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Well, Jimmy didn't do much when he left NO. Jimmy didn't have this guys resume coming into the league either. I'm just going to trust the process.

has nothing to do with trusting anything. Jimmy Graham was an athlete. He was freakish fast for a TE and tall. Yeah this kids tall, but that's the end of the similarities. Jimmy wasn't a great blocker. This kid will probably do better with blocking. They're nothing alike.

Jimmy was a hybrid

shawnkytonk · 04-25-2020, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

has nothing to do with trusting anything. Jimmy Graham was an athlete. He was freakish fast for a TE and tall. Yeah this kids tall, but that's the end of the similarities. Jimmy wasn't a great blocker. This kid will probably do better with blocking. They're nothing alike.

Jimmy was a hybrid

Not that Dayton is a powerhouse, but it says something that this kid is #1 in rec and yds at Dayton all time. He's far from just a blocker.

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Not that Dayton is a powerhouse, but it says something that this kid is #1 in rec and yds at Dayton all time. He's far from just a blocker.

he is, I think smash loaded some tape. Even though he is massively bigger than the rest of the guys, he can ctach and goes up for the ball.

TheOak · 04-25-2020, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too

He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40...

are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster..

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297

Jimmy Graham | TE | Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40...

are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster..

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297

Jimmy Graham | TE | Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results

2 tenths like the difference between a 4.33 and 4.53? Or is it closer to 3 tenths? Jimmy was running LB speed, and faster than many of the LB.

Either way I like the look of the kid. I hope he works put. He is definitely going to be a redzone weapon. Not sure you trade 4 picks, but sure we can pretend that's good, I guess.

04-24-2020, 11:33 PM	#2
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by spkb25 No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too Well, Jimmy didn't do much when he left NO. Jimmy didn't have this guys resume coming into the league either. I'm just going to trust the process.

04-24-2020, 11:41 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Well, Jimmy didn't do much when he left NO. Jimmy didn't have this guys resume coming into the league either. I'm just going to trust the process. has nothing to do with trusting anything. Jimmy Graham was an athlete. He was freakish fast for a TE and tall. Yeah this kids tall, but that's the end of the similarities. Jimmy wasn't a great blocker. This kid will probably do better with blocking. They're nothing alike. Jimmy was a hybrid

04-25-2020, 03:22 AM	#4
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by spkb25 has nothing to do with trusting anything. Jimmy Graham was an athlete. He was freakish fast for a TE and tall. Yeah this kids tall, but that's the end of the similarities. Jimmy wasn't a great blocker. This kid will probably do better with blocking. They're nothing alike. Jimmy was a hybrid Not that Dayton is a powerhouse, but it says something that this kid is #1 in rec and yds at Dayton all time. He's far from just a blocker.

04-25-2020, 07:38 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Not that Dayton is a powerhouse, but it says something that this kid is #1 in rec and yds at Dayton all time. He's far from just a blocker. he is, I think smash loaded some tape. Even though he is massively bigger than the rest of the guys, he can ctach and goes up for the ball.

04-25-2020, 05:18 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by spkb25 No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40... are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster.. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297 Jimmy Graham \| TE \| Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results

04-24-2020, 11:29 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by st thomas Maybe Jimmie graham 2.0 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No where close to the speed Graham had. No way he is anything near Jimmy in his prime. But that doesn't mean he can't be a traditional Shockey type. He's huge, big in red zone. Probably blocks well too

04-25-2020, 07:35 AM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by TheOak He is quicker than Jimmy in shuttle and 3-cone and Jimmy is only 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40... are you referencing the mystical visual speed? looks faster.. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30297 Jimmy Graham \| TE \| Miami (FL) - NFL Combine Results 2 tenths like the difference between a 4.33 and 4.53? Or is it closer to 3 tenths? Jimmy was running LB speed, and faster than many of the LB. Either way I like the look of the kid. I hope he works put. He is definitely going to be a redzone weapon. Not sure you trade 4 picks, but sure we can pretend that's good, I guess.