Saints Draft Days Official Thread

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 08:03 AM

Per Larry Holder

It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2020, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Per Larry Holder

It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76

Looks like we stole him. We screwed the Vikings for once.

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Looks like we stole him. We screwed the Vikings for once.

to some extent I agree. And I personally like the pick, a lot. What we gave up wasn't the most intelligent, but let's see what we do today. Maybe we surprise... again

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2020, 08:21 AM

As a side note, 65%, on average, of draft picks do not make the final roster and that includes picks made in the first two days. It's probably closer to 85% of players drafted in the final four rounds that fail to make a roster. Odds are we gave up nothing of value to get a potential starter. Not bad at all.

Of course, for those into the draft as an event, I can see the disappointment. It's entertaining to see who we pick late even if there little to no chance of them making the squad.

jeanpierre · 04-25-2020, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As a side note, 65%, on average, of draft picks do not make the final roster and that includes picks made in the first two days. It's probably closer to 85% of players drafted in the final four rounds that fail to make a roster. Odds are we gave up nothing of value to get a potential starter. Not bad at all.

Of course, for those into the draft as an event, I can see the disappointment. It's entertaining to see who we pick late even if there little to no chance of them making the squad.

Which is exactly why you want as many draft picks as possible...

spkb25 · 04-25-2020, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Which is exactly why you want as many draft picks as possible...

Thats a good point, crap shoot

if we end up with 3 starters than we win .

Its going to depend on Cesar, baun, and trautman

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2020, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Which is exactly why you want as many draft picks as possible...

In Ireland I trust. He'd be the one that had our three targets all ranked in the top 40. I can understand your disappointment given your love for the draft. As I mentioned in the other thread, maybe we can pick up a couple of picks for Warford just for the entertainment value alone, even if they have virtually no chance of ever making a final cut.

We actually seem to do much better with UDFA's than with late round picks, anyway.

halloween 65 · 04-25-2020, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In Ireland I trust. He'd be the one that had our three targets all ranked in the top 40. I can understand your disappointment given your love for the draft. As I mentioned in the other thread, maybe we can pick up a couple of picks for Warford just for the entertainment value alone, even if they have virtually no chance of ever making a final cut.

We actually seem to do much better with UDFA's than with late round picks, anyway.

To be honest every player round 1-7 have a great chance at starting. If they outplay the next guy they start or become a backup. Competition is the only way to prove their worth and improve a team, Armstead and Colston wasn't drafted in early rounds, If I recall right 7th round, and if not given a chance would have not been able to do great. Law of average still applies, more picks the better the chance at hitting on a gem or even a hidden stud. Payton screwed the pooch or has just become lazy with giving picks away for certain players as much as he does it.

FinSaint · 04-25-2020, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Per Larry Holder

It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76

I was wondering about this earlier, but I was too lazy to check out the math...

While giving up that many picks seems a lot - it's right on value (slightly undervalue) according to the trade chart.

04-25-2020, 08:03 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Per Larry Holder It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76

04-25-2020, 08:11 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by spkb25 Per Larry Holder It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76 Looks like we stole him. We screwed the Vikings for once.

04-25-2020, 08:12 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Looks like we stole him. We screwed the Vikings for once. to some extent I agree. And I personally like the pick, a lot. What we gave up wasn't the most intelligent, but let's see what we do today. Maybe we surprise... again

04-25-2020, 08:21 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread As a side note, 65%, on average, of draft picks do not make the final roster and that includes picks made in the first two days. It's probably closer to 85% of players drafted in the final four rounds that fail to make a roster. Odds are we gave up nothing of value to get a potential starter. Not bad at all. Of course, for those into the draft as an event, I can see the disappointment. It's entertaining to see who we pick late even if there little to no chance of them making the squad.

04-25-2020, 08:26 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As a side note, 65%, on average, of draft picks do not make the final roster and that includes picks made in the first two days. It's probably closer to 85% of players drafted in the final four rounds that fail to make a roster. Odds are we gave up nothing of value to get a potential starter. Not bad at all. Of course, for those into the draft as an event, I can see the disappointment. It's entertaining to see who we pick late even if there little to no chance of them making the squad. *Which is exactly why you want as many draft picks as possible...*

04-25-2020, 08:28 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by jeanpierre *Which is exactly why you want as many draft picks as possible...* Thats a good point, crap shoot if we end up with 3 starters than we win . Its going to depend on Cesar, baun, and trautman

04-25-2020, 08:31 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by jeanpierre *Which is exactly why you want as many draft picks as possible...* In Ireland I trust. He'd be the one that had our three targets all ranked in the top 40. I can understand your disappointment given your love for the draft. As I mentioned in the other thread, maybe we can pick up a couple of picks for Warford just for the entertainment value alone, even if they have virtually no chance of ever making a final cut. We actually seem to do much better with UDFA's than with late round picks, anyway.

04-25-2020, 08:50 AM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In Ireland I trust. He'd be the one that had our three targets all ranked in the top 40. I can understand your disappointment given your love for the draft. As I mentioned in the other thread, maybe we can pick up a couple of picks for Warford just for the entertainment value alone, even if they have virtually no chance of ever making a final cut. We actually seem to do much better with UDFA's than with late round picks, anyway. To be honest every player round 1-7 have a great chance at starting. If they outplay the next guy they start or become a backup. Competition is the only way to prove their worth and improve a team, Armstead and Colston wasn't drafted in early rounds, If I recall right 7th round, and if not given a chance would have not been able to do great. Law of average still applies, more picks the better the chance at hitting on a gem or even a hidden stud. Payton screwed the pooch or has just become lazy with giving picks away for certain players as much as he does it.

04-25-2020, 08:18 AM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by spkb25 Per Larry Holder It took 84 points for that pick and we gave up 76 I was wondering about this earlier, but I was too lazy to check out the math... While giving up that many picks seems a lot - it's right on value (slightly undervalue) according to the trade chart.