Jameis Winston 1 yr deal

TheOak · 04-30-2020, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

What's the over/under on sacking Tom Brady this year?

Brady will be under his sack on 20% of the plays.

K Major · 04-30-2020, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

What's the over/under on sacking Tom Brady this year?

According to my Football outsiders subscription, the Bucs were ranked at 23rd out of 32 teams on pass protection. They recently added Joe Haeg and just drafted a big nasty Tristan Wirfs in the 1st rd.

I have this page bookmarked to provide you a response right after training camp

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Rugby Saint II · 04-27-2020, 03:19 PM

I'm sure that he'll look good holding a clip board. Besides that I don't know what to think. Crab legs. Good Lawd'!

TheOak · 04-27-2020, 04:59 PM

If there was a year to pick up a player that was good on the field but a sh1t show off the field this is it. There isnt any social-izing but virtual.

Neither Drew nor Sean are Dr. Phil and they arent fixing anyone, if they could.. Cooks would stil be on the team.

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that we picked up a 3rd QB, Sean didn't like having to temper his Taysom usage last year when Taysom became the #2... With Winston as a safety net Sean can use Hill as he pleases.

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2020, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

If there was a year to pick up a player that was good on the field but a sh1t show off the field this is it. There isnt any social-izing but virtual.

Neither Drew nor Sean are Dr. Phil and they arent fixing anyone, if they could.. Cooks would stil be on the team.

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that we picked up a 3rd QB, Sean didn't like having to temper his Taysom usage last year when Taysom became the #2... With Winston as a safety net Sean can use Hill as he pleases.

Exactly. And Winston is starter quality, as was Bridgewater. Not top half of the league starter quality, but definitely better than several at this point.

lee909 · 04-27-2020, 06:16 PM

I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment.

Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that.

Just mumbling outloud

TheOak · 04-27-2020, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment.

Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that.

Just mumbling outloud

Those guys have always been around they just aren't durable enough to play as long as the pocket passers.

The Dude · 04-28-2020, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment.

Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that.

Just mumbling outloud

Comes full circle. Defenses will get smaller and faster so offenses will eventually get bigger with bruiser backs and big possession receivers that are hard to bring down. Plus running QBs will probably be around 5yrs or so average. My take anyway.
Then again I don’t know much about this.

halloween 65 · 04-28-2020, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Comes full circle. Defenses will get smaller and faster so offenses will eventually get bigger with bruiser backs and big possession receivers that are hard to bring down. Plus running QBs will probably be around 5yrs or so average. My take anyway.
Then again I don’t know much about this.

I agree. Look at Tenn. with Henry, a punishing rb going against a small lb, cb or s, with a full steam, not very many want to get flattened like a cat hit by a mack truck.

SmashMouth · 04-27-2020, 07:45 PM

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04-30-2020, 02:31 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth What's the over/under on sacking Tom Brady this year? Brady will be under his sack on 20% of the plays. SmashMouth likes this.

04-27-2020, 03:19 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal I'm sure that he'll look good holding a clip board. Besides that I don't know what to think. Crab legs. Good Lawd'!

04-27-2020, 04:59 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal If there was a year to pick up a player that was good on the field but a sh1t show off the field this is it. There isnt any social-izing but virtual. Neither Drew nor Sean are Dr. Phil and they arent fixing anyone, if they could.. Cooks would stil be on the team. Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that we picked up a 3rd QB, Sean didn't like having to temper his Taysom usage last year when Taysom became the #2... With Winston as a safety net Sean can use Hill as he pleases. AsylumGuido and dam1953 like this.

04-27-2020, 05:42 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by TheOak If there was a year to pick up a player that was good on the field but a sh1t show off the field this is it. There isnt any social-izing but virtual. Neither Drew nor Sean are Dr. Phil and they arent fixing anyone, if they could.. Cooks would stil be on the team. Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that we picked up a 3rd QB, Sean didn't like having to temper his Taysom usage last year when Taysom became the #2... With Winston as a safety net Sean can use Hill as he pleases. Exactly. And Winston is starter quality, as was Bridgewater. Not top half of the league starter quality, but definitely better than several at this point. rezburna likes this.

04-27-2020, 06:16 PM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment. Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that. Just mumbling outloud
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04-30-2020, 03:10 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth What's the over/under on sacking Tom Brady this year? According to my Football outsiders subscription, the Bucs were ranked at 23rd out of 32 teams on pass protection. They recently added Joe Haeg and just drafted a big nasty Tristan Wirfs in the 1st rd. I have this page bookmarked to provide you a response right after training camp . WillMacKenzie and SmashMouth like this.

04-27-2020, 07:10 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by lee909 I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment. Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that. Just mumbling outloud Those guys have always been around they just aren't durable enough to play as long as the pocket passers.

04-28-2020, 11:59 AM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by lee909 I wonder if the league is shifting again in focus. We have had around a decade of pass first, throwing QBs. I mean there cannot have been many eras this full of talented QBs Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning at the very elite. Now a younger generation has arrived the last few years, those that don't want to stay in the pocket, that can create as the field starts to break with Wilson and now Jackson, Watson and Maholmes. All work well with one elite receiver and players that can work after the catch and cheaper but more RBs to compliment. Teams started drafting smaller at LB to cope with the pass, wonder if this will lead to teams looking to exploit that. Just mumbling outloud Comes full circle. Defenses will get smaller and faster so offenses will eventually get bigger with bruiser backs and big possession receivers that are hard to bring down. Plus running QBs will probably be around 5yrs or so average. My take anyway. Then again I don’t know much about this. halloween 65 likes this.
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04-28-2020, 06:13 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by The Dude Comes full circle. Defenses will get smaller and faster so offenses will eventually get bigger with bruiser backs and big possession receivers that are hard to bring down. Plus running QBs will probably be around 5yrs or so average. My take anyway. Then again I don’t know much about this. I agree. Look at Tenn. with Henry, a punishing rb going against a small lb, cb or s, with a full steam, not very many want to get flattened like a cat hit by a mack truck. jnormand likes this.

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