NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-09-2020, 10:35 AM

The problem with this is that the original problem is not solved. There is no recourse for a team if there is a completely screwed up egregious call/non-call on a play. The NFL should be embarrassed by the lack of a flag on that TLL play in the NFCCG.

I put my idea back on the table again. Coaches get a black flag. That flag can be used to call for a review of anything at any time. However, that flag can only be used 1 single time by a team during the entire regular season, and 1 time in each playoff game.

It's only purpose is "break glass in case of emergency" on a really screwed up call.

"Will coach throw the black flag?" would become an interesting strategy question especially during the regular season as one it's down, you never get it back. It's scarcity and power would mean really careful thought as to when to use it. Maybe then the refs and the New York review offices will take them seriously.

I just feel it's completely unfair that teams have no recourse at all to screwed up calls/non-calls. There needs to be something in place to give teams the opportunity to ask for a screwed up call/non-call to be reversed.

SFIAH

saintsfan1976 · 05-10-2020, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

The problem with this is that the original problem is not solved. There is no recourse for a team if there is a completely screwed up egregious call/non-call on a play. The NFL should be embarrassed by the lack of a flag on that TLL play in the NFCCG.

I put my idea back on the table again. Coaches get a black flag. That flag can be used to call for a review of anything at any time. However, that flag can only be used 1 single time by a team during the entire regular season, and 1 time in each playoff game.

It's only purpose is "break glass in case of emergency" on a really screwed up call.

"Will coach throw the black flag?" would become an interesting strategy question especially during the regular season as one it's down, you never get it back. It's scarcity and power would mean really careful thought as to when to use it. Maybe then the refs and the New York review offices will take them seriously.

I just feel it's completely unfair that teams have no recourse at all to screwed up calls/non-calls. There needs to be something in place to give teams the opportunity to ask for a screwed up call/non-call to be reversed.

SFIAH

I'm for the black flag, but coaches get one per GAME

jeanpierre · 05-11-2020, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm for the black flag, but coaches get one per GAME

See, I go the other way - a HC should have like five (5) challenges...

If poor officiating gets a HC to commit early, that team is set up to be screwed at the end of a game...

Having multiple challenges, and if many are called, gives us a direct indicator that it's time to review, replaces that official, or even crew...

If a Tight End keeps dropping the ball, or a QB throws pick-sixes, or a HC can't get it done in the post-season, if you have history to release them...

Multiple challenges is a direct impact action that calls for the official, even crew, to be review'd and then under the spotlight appropriate action can be taken, it at least puts the heat on league officials...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-11-2020, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm for the black flag, but coaches get one per GAME

The problem with that is the system will treat them just like red coaches challenges flags then. We've already seen how they treat those. The entire point is that the black flag is only used when the season is on the line. With only a single one for the entire regular season, when it's thrown, the season is literally on the line with the call. Maybe then the refs, booth, and New York will take on the responsibility to get the call right instead of being petty.

One per playoff game is fair though. Essentially you get one for making the playoffs, and one for each playoff win. Since each of those are monumental achievements in a season, the black flag is a fitting reward. But again, only one per playoff game, and once it's gone, it's gone.

SFIAH

gulfgambler · 05-09-2020, 12:17 PM

Not surprising; NFL begrudgingly passed this rule late in the off season to try and quiet the Who Dat Nation (Note to NFL, you can't silence the Who Dat Nation!) And then instructed on field and replay officials not to enforce it.
Roger Go2hell's way of b1tch slapping the Saints again!

Rugby Saint II · 05-09-2020, 04:21 PM

Roger Godhell is just a petty man.....this was set up to fail. We know this to be true and as was mentioned earlier the problem still exists. Mission accomplished!

I'm reminded of the quote from The Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".

vpheughan · 05-10-2020, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Roger Godhell is just a petty man.....this was set up to fail. We know this to be true and as was mentioned earlier the problem still exists. Mission accomplished!

I'm reminded of the quote from The Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".

Correct analogy but the "MAN" behind the curtain are the OWNERS manipulating their "FALL GUY" Goodell. The ultimate goal is making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ billions of them. Split 32 ways. If turning the NFL into the WWE accomplishes that, the cure for the "Blatantly missed P.I" is take $2,000,000 every 4 hours till it feels better. Goodell gets over $40 million a year to be "THE WIZARD"

Much laughed at Jurrah at least tried to take on an employee that was 1/32 "His" The other 31 owners were not amused, you know the rest.

From an article by Jason La Confore January 2020

Goodell has made significant early progress on a new collective bargaining agreement with the NFLPA that could be wrapped up in the next few weeks, television ratings have been back on the rise and there is immense excitement among owners about how robust the next round of broadcast contracts will be. There has been no serious movement towards a succession plan if in fact this is Goodell's final contract at the helm, and high-ranking sources with several clubs believe that there could be a push to retain him deeper into the future.

st thomas · 05-13-2020, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Roger Godhell is just a petty man.....this was set up to fail. We know this to be true and as was mentioned earlier the problem still exists. Mission accomplished!

I'm reminded of the quote from The Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".

There’s 5 words in your post that says it all

This was set up to fail . Periodddd

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jeanpierre · 05-10-2020, 02:01 PM

How can a struggling new league get it so right and the NFL, that's been around now for a hundred years, can not do same or even be better?!?

vpheughan · 05-10-2020, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

How can a struggling new league get it so right and the NFL, that's been around now for a hundred years, can not do same or even be better?!?

That's easy! The key word is "STRUGGLING" the NFL is an ESTABLISHED sports/entertainment BUSINESS!! The NFL doesn't care. Ratings are up, revenue is UP a new TV Contract will put billions more into the "Man Behind The Curtains" pockets.

Don't take my word for that.

National Football League television viewership increases 5% for 2019 regular season. The NFL says it increased its average TV viewership to 16.5 million per game, a rise from the 15.8 million viewers it averaged last year. NFL games finished with 47 of the top 50 telecasts during the season.Dec 31, 2019

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05-09-2020, 10:35 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference The problem with this is that the original problem is not solved. There is no recourse for a team if there is a completely screwed up egregious call/non-call on a play. The NFL should be embarrassed by the lack of a flag on that TLL play in the NFCCG. I put my idea back on the table again. Coaches get a black flag. That flag can be used to call for a review of anything at any time. However, that flag can only be used 1 single time by a team during the entire regular season, and 1 time in each playoff game. It's only purpose is "break glass in case of emergency" on a really screwed up call. "Will coach throw the black flag?" would become an interesting strategy question especially during the regular season as one it's down, you never get it back. It's scarcity and power would mean really careful thought as to when to use it. Maybe then the refs and the New York review offices will take them seriously. I just feel it's completely unfair that teams have no recourse at all to screwed up calls/non-calls. There needs to be something in place to give teams the opportunity to ask for a screwed up call/non-call to be reversed. SFIAH
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05-10-2020, 06:51 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,991 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL The problem with this is that the original problem is not solved. There is no recourse for a team if there is a completely screwed up egregious call/non-call on a play. The NFL should be embarrassed by the lack of a flag on that TLL play in the NFCCG. I put my idea back on the table again. Coaches get a black flag. That flag can be used to call for a review of anything at any time. However, that flag can only be used 1 single time by a team during the entire regular season, and 1 time in each playoff game. It's only purpose is "break glass in case of emergency" on a really screwed up call. "Will coach throw the black flag?" would become an interesting strategy question especially during the regular season as one it's down, you never get it back. It's scarcity and power would mean really careful thought as to when to use it. Maybe then the refs and the New York review offices will take them seriously. I just feel it's completely unfair that teams have no recourse at all to screwed up calls/non-calls. There needs to be something in place to give teams the opportunity to ask for a screwed up call/non-call to be reversed. SFIAH I'm for the black flag, but coaches get one per GAME

05-11-2020, 07:12 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm for the black flag, but coaches get one per GAME See, I go the other way - a HC should have like five (5) challenges... If poor officiating gets a HC to commit early, that team is set up to be screwed at the end of a game... Having multiple challenges, and if many are called, gives us a direct indicator that it's time to review, replaces that official, or even crew... If a Tight End keeps dropping the ball, or a QB throws pick-sixes, or a HC can't get it done in the post-season, if you have history to release them... Multiple challenges is a direct impact action that calls for the official, even crew, to be review'd and then under the spotlight appropriate action can be taken, it at least puts the heat on league officials... Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-11-2020, 08:47 AM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm for the black flag, but coaches get one per GAME The problem with that is the system will treat them just like red coaches challenges flags then. We've already seen how they treat those. The entire point is that the black flag is only used when the season is on the line. With only a single one for the entire regular season, when it's thrown, the season is literally on the line with the call. Maybe then the refs, booth, and New York will take on the responsibility to get the call right instead of being petty. One per playoff game is fair though. Essentially you get one for making the playoffs, and one for each playoff win. Since each of those are monumental achievements in a season, the black flag is a fitting reward. But again, only one per playoff game, and once it's gone, it's gone. SFIAH
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05-09-2020, 12:17 PM	#5
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Not surprising; NFL begrudgingly passed this rule late in the off season to try and quiet the Who Dat Nation (Note to NFL, you can't silence the Who Dat Nation!) And then instructed on field and replay officials not to enforce it. Roger Go2hell's way of b1tch slapping the Saints again! Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-09-2020, 04:21 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,121	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Roger Godhell is just a petty man.....this was set up to fail. We know this to be true and as was mentioned earlier the problem still exists. Mission accomplished! I'm reminded of the quote from The Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain". st thomas likes this.

05-10-2020, 08:05 AM	#7
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Roger Godhell is just a petty man.....this was set up to fail. We know this to be true and as was mentioned earlier the problem still exists. Mission accomplished! I'm reminded of the quote from The Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain". Correct analogy but the "MAN" behind the curtain are the OWNERS manipulating their "FALL GUY" Goodell. The ultimate goal is making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ billions of them. Split 32 ways. If turning the NFL into the WWE accomplishes that, the cure for the "Blatantly missed P.I" is take $2,000,000 every 4 hours till it feels better. Goodell gets over $40 million a year to be "THE WIZARD" Much laughed at Jurrah at least tried to take on an employee that was 1/32 "His" The other 31 owners were not amused, you know the rest. From an article by Jason La Confore January 2020 Goodell has made significant early progress on a new collective bargaining agreement with the NFLPA that could be wrapped up in the next few weeks, television ratings have been back on the rise and there is immense excitement among owners about how robust the next round of broadcast contracts will be. There has been no serious movement towards a succession plan if in fact this is Goodell's final contract at the helm, and high-ranking sources with several clubs believe that there could be a push to retain him deeper into the future.
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05-13-2020, 08:48 AM	#8
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Roger Godhell is just a petty man.....this was set up to fail. We know this to be true and as was mentioned earlier the problem still exists. Mission accomplished! I'm reminded of the quote from The Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain". There’s 5 words in your post that says it all This was set up to fail . Periodddd Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-10-2020, 02:01 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference How can a struggling new league get it so right and the NFL, that's been around now for a hundred years, can not do same or even be better?!? SaintFanQ, saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.

05-10-2020, 02:59 PM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: NFL 2020 NO MORE Booth Reviews for Pass interference Originally Posted by jeanpierre How can a struggling new league get it so right and the NFL, that's been around now for a hundred years, can not do same or even be better?!? That's easy! The key word is "STRUGGLING" the NFL is an ESTABLISHED sports/entertainment BUSINESS!! The NFL doesn't care. Ratings are up, revenue is UP a new TV Contract will put billions more into the "Man Behind The Curtains" pockets. Don't take my word for that. National Football League television viewership increases 5% for 2019 regular season. The NFL says it increased its average TV viewership to 16.5 million per game, a rise from the 15.8 million viewers it averaged last year. NFL games finished with 47 of the top 50 telecasts during the season.Dec 31, 2019 Remember North Dallas Forty! “Every time I call it a busine$$, you call it a game! And every time I call it a game, you call it a busine$$!” Quote the Hoodie "It i$ what it i$" Utah_Saint likes this.
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