Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Seeing Hugh Jackman being trashed for simply tweeting a picture of a protester and policeman hugging I’m left with the feeling white people are best served to sit quietly and nod our heads in silent agreement. Just let us know when it’s ok to have our our feelings. We’ll be here.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

You have a voice and you think more than you talk, which is why I have more respect for you than most humans. A lot of people talk more than they think and are just bad at conveying what they mean, and yes some are just idiots.

You are trying to solve a problem, I risk manage and trouble shoot for a living. Hopefully I can provide some value.

Symptom vs Problem
Most people treat fevers. A fever is rarely the problem, its a symptom of something else. In regards to what is going on right now there are multiple symptoms and multiple problems.

Causation vs Correlation
A white cop shoots a black person. Why?

• Did he know him personally and have a problem.

• Was he a bad cop.

• Was he an incompetent cop.

• Is the difference in race the cause or just a correlation in this incident?

Right now you are thinking that none of this should matter and it should have never happened... and you are 100% correct. However, it does happen and until you know why you cant fix what is broken.

At the end of the day, what I am reading from you seems to be on the right path. Keep people off the streets will keep them out of the corss-hairs. Education and employment will go a long way to keeping them off the streets. Working with guardians and parents to drive the education will put children in position to have a future. That is how you work on your community... We do not live in a vacuum so on the other side of that coin you will have to find a way to bridge the relationship between the community and those who are supposed to be protecting the community. Having to place blind trust in an Iraqi interpreter or guide while at war in Iraq is a real damn challenge at 3am in the dark of night.

The hard part and where I might start is to find someone or someones within the community that will resonate across the age ranges because it will have to be a combined effort that cuts through the bull**** fog trying to keep everyone from seeing clearly. :bng:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Brees isn't done. You give too little respect for the integrity of players like Demario Davis and Malcolm Jenkins. Davis has already come out praising Brees' leadership in admitting to making a mistake. I have little doubt Jenkins, and the rest of the team, will do the same. This is an opportunity for ALL involved to learn something new.

At first I was one of those that didn't get the kneeling action during the anthem, but I have since learned that players that kneel have the right to do just that as Americans and I no longer have an issue with it at all. I feel Brees is learning that more and more Americans are feeling the same way. Good people do and say stupid things every day. Good people also forgive those that do and say stupid things, especially if they can learn from their mistakes.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

This is one of the best responses I’ve seen on this forum and I genuinely thank you for that. I use that analogy all the time. You’re 100% right. We tend to treat the symptoms instead of the disease. That’s the problem we ran into here in the medical field with COVID. We could only treat the symptoms because we didn’t know how to fix the disease. Again, perfect analogy.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Interesting points. I can't say I agree with "any means necessary", but I do understand the thought behind it. Violence only leads to escalation of violence. I thought MLK was much more effective than Malcolm for that reason, he brought all people together in the face of violence and it made his argument much more clear. Throwing violence into the equation and the message no longer becomes the focus.

For example, everyone was outraged by Floyd's death and the country as a whole saw the abuse taking place. If a MLK figure were around to channel that into massive marches and sit-ins EVERYONE would be aligned. Instead, we see the media constantly talking about the riots, constantly looking for the next thing to be outraged at (Drew). It's diluting the message...

I agree that the wealth gap in this country has grown to a extreme, and it's not acceptable. Unfortunately, the elite in this country do not care about the working or middle class regardless of race. Upward mobility has slowed down since the 90's, and the reason for it? Globalism. In 1998 this country's 'elite' sold the future to China. We lost millions of middle class jobs and the most impacted were minority communities. 30 Years ago you could come out of high school, go to work and land a job to support a family and house...

I wish I knew the answer to the wealth disparity, but the problem is those that really control the wealth are no longer American's, they are Global citizens. If you impose laws on them to take some of that wealth, they'll move their assets to another country.

Who are the top lobbying groups?
Who are the people controlling the media?
What do they have in common (aside from race)?
Why do they hold meetings every year (Bilderberg meetings)?
All questions that Americans should want answers to.

I love your last few paragraphs Rez, think we have a lot in common on those fronts.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

appeasement is a mistake. esp. when you didnt do anything wrong. You will never appeased the aggrieved. So Dont.
You are the sanity in a crazy world.
have to disagree w you here. Love of America is not a defect, nor is the expression of.
most dead-on statement ever to emerge from your keyboard. They better save their paychecks.
The citizens of Real Life have had enough.
And thank you for your service. I feel awful for you and also for the police, who are taking all the abuse on the front lines. Imagine being judged for the worst person in your profession, out of a million.

Brees never said he wanted kneeling banned. He disagrees with it. Its a damn sad day for America, when you cannot express respect for your Flag.
Even sadder, when you are bullied into retracting.

Spin this how you want. I dont give a damn what anyone from the internet thinks about me, and I'm not a talk show, so im not taking any calls. You can talk to yourself, if you want.

I loved these guys. I never cared what color anyone's skin was. I wanted to be OJ. But I've lost my appetite for buying tickets to see Millionaires who hate my country, because they believe lies, and then bully anyone who doesnt join their riot. I cant watch it. I cant even care about Michael Thomas anymore.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Well until others say something then it's unknown. They were quick to publicly admonish him, why not be just a quick to accept the apology?I hope it gets resolved and I hope he doesn't have to kneel unless he wants to.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I agree with everything except MLK being more effective than Malcolm. I found it be a misnomer. To say violence is ineffective is to say that war in general is in effective. The military uses intimidation and violence all the time to get their point across if middle ground can’t be found through other means (or at least they say they try to find middle ground first).

We didn’t see the Civil Rights Act of 1968 until King was murdered and riots broke out all across the country. Not only the riots, but the act of violence against King sparked change. If violence only begets violence, I would contend that the police need to stop using violence then. I’d also contend that that’s an irrational request to a certain extent, so again, whatever yields the optimal results is something I’ll support.

Other than that, it’s safe to say I agree with you on the elites and their globalist agenda. I’ll even go as far as to say that from a militaristic standpoint I’d rather deal with the Right and their nationalism than the Left and their globalism. Not to say that those ideologies are exclusive to either party, but Trump is no globalist, and Biden is a self proclaimed Zionist. I’m probably rambling at this point. My bad.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I will not attend any games if any Saints players kneel during the National Anthem and I will have tickets for sale. Enough of this BS. Protest at any other time you want. Don't do it during the National Anthem!

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Good seats? Discounted rate? Hit my inbox. 👀👀