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I saw . I came straight here.
I did read any comments yet.
Who are these folks PR people?
Someone from his camp should have told him last Friday when Don Lemon started calling on entertainers and athletes to say something, “Drew , make sure you shut da ‘ ***c up before you say anything.”
Noooo. He had to post up.
Let his little pea brain and crooked fingers do some talking. Let me post.
Malcolm Jenkins got on CNN . Brees is trending On line. What a mess.
I always say people need to not post up every little stupid thought their brain farts out.
I learned the hard way many of times putting my two left ,size 11 feet in my mouth, shut da ‘ *** up.
I have said uhhhhh, some doozies . It took me about 30 years to figure out to shut da’ ***c up.
Sometimes you just cannot say stuff.
Ex. An oops, but I can live with for the next 10-25 years. I recently commented to m niece about about her fiancé. Why did I not shut da’ ***c up, lol. We don’t speak. Maybe in 10-25 years from now. I made my peace with it. I ate that. Done said is done said. We don't speak. She speaks to her mother’s sister who made a comment, same comment. Another thing, some comments of the same can come from some people, but not others.
Back to Brees.
Brees goofed. I know Wifey Brittney and SeanP are pizzed. Brees just has to sit in it now. Hell, people Black, White, Conservative, Liberal , etc., are after Beyonce and JayZ for posting up.
This is a very controversial, difficult time. LilWayne , Prince William and Kate got bashed on social media. Tyler Perry too.
Oh well. I cannot worry about him I got a wedding to go to later this. Gawd, I do not want to go. I will and I smilesmilelaugh and shut da’ ***c up.

Oh I hope Brees does not backstroke and do the ole apology. No. It is out there now. Trust me, a semi- retired Foot- in- Mouth pro , that does not work. I apologized and each time I did in my mess, twice, and it got worst each time.

What a mess Brees made . It will pass ...like in October.

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No fry.
Just 2020 :biggun: needs to end.
Like people keep saying , 2020 is not giving a shyt. Every dam month there is something nationally. Personally, knowing of people in N.O. who had Caronavirus.... just stuff .... Is it Dec. 31 yet? :D

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

:bng: :cheering:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

BEFORE they even get on the field and have all those penalties. :rolleyes:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I gotta disagree. They seem pretty united against Drew to me. Lol.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

This is why I didn't want Jenkins back. He's the biggest loud mouth of them all. Apparently the entire team is infected with his bigotry. And yes, the way Jenkins and his teammates are reacting to Brees is true bigotry.

Millionaires, telling others what they're allowed to say, and crying about "systemic racism". What about the fact that black folks, despite making up only 13% of the population, somehow lead the nation in violent crime? Given the amount of interactions with police that they force upon themselves, it speaks to the exact OPPOSITE of racism that more blacks aren't killed by police.

Does that mean that every act is justified by police? No, of course not. You can't take the countless thousands of cops out there and expect that a small number won't go rogue. Is it a systemic problem? Not even close. These people keep saying "listen to us". We've listened... We've proven that it isn't a systemic problem. The left cherry picks what they will report on, and these ignorant football players take the bait and show just exactly what racism actually looks like.

It's sad.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Brees has way more support than them. It's not even close. I do wish they would actually do more than just kneel though. How about a protest in black communities on gun violence. No reason Chicago should have over 200 gun murders this year. It's out of control and has been for a long long time. Nobody does or says anything. We have to stop the senseless loss of black youth. We can deal with racism but the real loss of black lives is on black lives killing black lives.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

The best way to get what you want from people is to strategically plant seeds of hate and distrust between two people. Eventually it will come to a head and while they’re busy fighting and trying to kill each other you have all the time in the world to go through all their **** and rob them of everything while they are distracted. In the end you have both peoples stuff while one is dead and the other is facing consequences.
This scenario applies to every aspect of life.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Same thing happened last year when he associated himself with an anti gay association. People blamed his PR person. Here we are a year later with this ****. He has a lot to learn if he wants to be a politician starting with how to pander.
I don’t see how in the world these guys are going to want to play for him.
It’s going to be really sad if these comments wind up tarnishing his career.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I am good with Drew for expressing his opinion and not sugar-coating it. I am also cool with several Saints current and former showing their saltiness about it. Emotions are high after the George Floyd execution and whatever you believe it is just more heartfelt now than it ever was before.

Here is what I hope ... it would be great if we cross racial lines on this issue. Meaning at least one of our black Saints aligns with Drew and says he also can't get behind kneeling during the anthem, and likewise at least one of our white Saints kneels during the anthem because the feeling of alienation moves him to do so.

We've got a strong locker room, and as soon as the cleats hit the field we'll find a way to bring the humility and comradery back.

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Very good points.

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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Even Obama's approval ratings were in the 40%. Can't make everyone happy no matter what you say. Who cares.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Yep. Nothing he said was rude or controversial. If they want to be offended by it then that's their choice. They've all behaved wildly inappropriately at this point and owe Drew a HUGE apology, both privately and publicly. He is a living legend and seemingly a great person and they are attempting to assassinate his character. If they don't walk this **** back quickly they will come to regret it.

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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Retired Army Veteran... When the National anthem is played the Correct protocol is standing with hand over your heart or saluting the flag ... Period ... Standing with Drew... And For all who served and those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom that can no longer standoff themselves.

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In before the media writes us off and says we have no chance because we don't agree. Then we go and beat the brakes off the Bucs. It will be like angry married couple make up sex (with a cat in tow)


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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Error.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Hope you're right man, but if they don't resolve this it's gonna cause issues. Brees may not be so willing to put it all on the line for a bunch of guys who stabbed him in the back. And these entitled children sure aren't likely to go out of their way to help a guy who so cruelly hurt their feelings through no fault of his own. Shame too because this was already going to be a tough year with the abbreviated offseason. Drew is nearing the end and I really wanted to see him go out on top. I'm afraid this will derail any hope of that happening.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Thanks for that cat gif Neugey, I'll bet Forever Fan is smiling down on you for keeping up the tradition.

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Brees is being protested in New Orleans.:furious::no:: https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...3&widget=Tweet

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Keyboard klan member only rooting for black people when they score a touchdown

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

SMH. I was going to try to go to bed happy that the vermin cops who were accomplices finally got charged tonight.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

:rolleyes:
He has to fix this tomorrow.
Of course, during the season, media will recap it because.
He needs to come back and say, not that it will help, he is sorry that he offended anyone. He does not support police brutality. He spoke out of term for others. He has listened to his teammates and his colleagues. He respects others rights and freedoms and what the flag and pledge means to them or does not and their rights to feel that way.
For him, he choses to stand and will because it is personal due to his family members who served in the U.S. military. He supports the right and choice of those who wish to kneel, sit down, stand , or burn the American flag.

Sometimes you just have to eat it your mistake. Me...my niece. No forgiveness from her. Oh well.
Of course , Brees saying this, the same media and players will come back and say how wrong it is for him to call for burning the U. S flag and how he is not a team player for wanting to make himself stand up.:confused:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Ever heard of the silent majority. We are still here. Can't hear us on social media though or a bunch of BS internet articles. A lot of us are also black.

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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

It is called selective outrage.

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thats right, support the rioting, violence and looting or you belong with the klan. Support kneeling or youre part of the problem. It is possible to look at what happened with Mr. Floyd and see it as murder while also recognizing black people dont have any outrage about killing each other or their own little babies. The police can't even find the murderers because they won't help them. The biggest problem facing black people is themselves.

Are you a black person infected with selective outrage? Don't answer, it is rhetorical. But when the truth hurts I know it is best to scream racist. Makes everything better, doesn't it? No need for mirrors that way.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

If I were Drew I would just choose to retire. He played because he enjoyed the team... that isn’t going to happen now.

It’s sad, but the saints are in trouble. Bad timing on Drew’s part, childish response by those who he thought were friends.

Really wanted to see him get another ring, but now it won’t happen. The team always had great chemistry.

So many people need to grow up and educate themselves beyond their own perspective. Diversity of thought is just as important as diversity of culture. But apparently we live in the era of “think like me or your racist”... what a shame.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Standard protocol for the anthem is not hand over heart, that protocol is for the pledge of allegiance...

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

When you say people should protest gun violence Chicago, and evidence is shown that people already do, but you dismiss that evidence with ease it says to me your concern was disingenuous from the start. Bringing it up was merely a tactic to dismiss any and all complaints from the community. It’s moving the goal posts.

I was already aware of protests, marches, and organizations created to stop gun violence. Anybody who’s really interested would know as well. A friend of mine and myself were texting yesterday morning and spitballing more innovative things we could do through his organization to address that specific issue. Gun safety training. Fun and informative. Job programs. Nothing would help more than being able to raise them up out of poverty stricken situations, but we do what we can.

I get it. Y’all believe police brutality is a non-issue and y’all don’t give a **** what anybody has to say about it, and that’s fine. Just say that. Don’t pretend to care about other things to downplay what’s going on now. “What about Black on Black crime?” is an inappropriate response.

As far as the original post is concern, I’m speaking on the Saints. Drew’s teammates and former teammates seem to be on the same accord. Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, Sanders, and Jordan all had something to say. That’s almost every leader on the team. I’m sure the silent majority is powerful in the United States. That’s evident. However, the majority in the NFL is different from the majority in real life.

No comment would have sufficed.

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He apologized. They already announced the team meeting. It’ll get passionate. People will cry and hug it out. It’ll be a learning experience and bonding moment on some “We Are the Titans” ****. Then they’ll go win the Super Bowl and the narrative will be how they overcame ideological differences to become champions of the world. Movies like that write themselves.

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If anyone truly believes Drew is racist, they are ignorant. No where in his interview did he say he had a problem with protesting racial injustice. He said he had a problem with disrespecting the flag and National Anthem. If people can't understand what he says, maybe they are the problem. You will never bring unity in this country if you continue to protest during the National Anthem. You will only create more division. Too many people view it as disrespectful to the soldiers who lost their lives defending this country. Protest before coin toss, before opening kick off, hell kneel down the entire half time on the 50 yard line if you want. I don't have a problem with that. I agree that there are issues with the use of excessive force by some police officers that needs to be eliminated. I know there is racism that needs to end. But there also has to be law and order and compliance. If not, we will become a third world country. How many people have now died or been seriously injured during these so called peaceful protest? How many businesses have been destroyed? How much taxpayer property has been destroyed? Who do you think will pay for all of this? Protest all you want but do it peaceful, smart and don't alienate others. It only works if you keep everyone unified. Incorrectly turning Drew's words against him will also create division. These players and fans need to recognize and understand this. Peace, Love and Whodat!

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Rez

I believe there is a problem with police abuse of power, and there has been for some time. Many of them are trained to subvert the constitution and leave people thinking they have no right to silence or against unreasonable searches.

If Black Lives Matter why can’t the black community stop killing each other at alarming rates? Why does a “snitches get stitches” culture exist? Your seen as a race trader if you work with law enforcement to get criminals out of your community. Nothing can change, no investment into business of color or in minority areas can occur if it’s filled with crime. If the community itself doesn’t realize that change starts from within, nothing from the outside will matter.

Few solutions from my perspective:
1. De-criminalize non-violent crimes (drug crimes, crimes against property are violent). This locks up too many people for just wanting to get high. Focus should be on violence and rehab for non-violent offenders.

2. Body cameras to be mandatory for all police departments and are required to be running at all times.

3. National training effort for police regarding abuse of power and de-escalating tactics.

4. Incentivize and heavily promote trade programs in poor communities. Make the training free to provide skills and a way out for people in these communities that feel like they have no choice but crime.

Just my thoughts... if people are going to protest for change they need to know what policy changes they want.

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Poverty and violent criminality go hand in hand. There’s study after study detailing that. Most importantly, that should have no bearing on police brutality. Maybe if Black people were killing police at an alarming rate I could see the connection. And snitches get stitches is universal law in all street environments. Does the Yakuza allow snitches? Italians? Mexicans? Nobody does.

Your ideas for legislation are great though for those who see legislation as the end goal.

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This is the kind of frame of mind that Demario Davis has been lauded and that all people have gotten behind and supported and has seen steps taken. President Trump gets little credit (though he's not afraid to let people know) and that's that he gave people a seat at the table to publicly make their argument about former incarcerated reform and there's been steps taken at the federal and state level to the former incarcerated can have more legit steps to rebuild their lives...

My issue from where I'm standing, is when police brutality is made into only a white cop on black perp crime - #FakeNews Manipulative #MSM knows this and that's what gets the air time and they hammer at it 24/7...

Do you know the same police force in MN killed a white perp who was attempting to surrender by a black police officer?

There was no looting and rioting.

Right here in Louisiana just a few years ago two black police officers shot and killed a white father with his son next to him in the truck on their property.

Again little to none #MSM coverage, but no looting and rioting...

And I've no doubt ANTIFA garbage has jumped in now as the leftists radicals had tried to do in the 1960's and stir racial disharmony among people who genuinely got along before being manipulated by #MSM and #Antifa...

But watching the video online shared by independent reporting, it's not just white kids raiding Cheesecake Factory stores, but folks of colour rioting and looting small businesses, and often those small biz owners are black!

That's when as Demario Davis rightly points out, that the whole thing loses focus - and it loses credibility...

Attacking Drew was just the last straw for me because he didn't repeat, verbatim the exact f*cking message...

People need to get their selfish head out of their arses and understand if we're all Americans, all in this together, then stop with the Identity politics of identifying as only one segment...

Then need to embrace and truly understand when people see #AllLivesMatter, it means that we're all in this fight together, we all hurt when an individual or just a couple of *******s violate an American's Rights and Due Process...

And that when a shady guy with a criminal history, or a 70+yo old police officer (also of colour), or some white punk who's stupidly trying to get some street cred are killed while in police custody - it's a problem for us all...

But the reaction we've seen and the virtue signaling by out-of-touch sports and entertainment personalities, to somehow call out someone like Drew, who did more for Black New Orleanians than even Obama, is bullsh*t...

And what it's worth, I'm not a black man and I can't fully appreciate the BS mindset you've got to go through in some situtations; I truly respect and appreciate that's no easy task...

But to say that poor white folks (jokingly and accepted in entertainment and news circles as white trash) get as rough a treatment; the words and faces may be different, but it's still a humiliating experience...

In my business, I still drive my Dad's old beat-up truck while wearing overalls after working on a farm or in a swamp; and yes, when I've been pulled over, a few of times without cause, I see a difference vs my then newer vehicle...

When I walk into the bank dirty, full of oil and dirt, I feel the shadow creeping up on me vs when I come in dressed dapper. And it's then I realize, like all folks, that the real colour that matters is Green...

Now I've many folks of colour I have as friends and clients - And we've very frank, honest talks and I believe them when they tell me how disgusted they are with all this virtue signaling and political correctness to social problems...

And I believe them and what I believe is their true #wokeness, when they acknowledge that the real colour that matters in this country is Green...

I believe them when they tell me they too, like Drew Brees, value their families' sacrifices, especially in the military, and don't believe in taking a knee...

And I believe them that it's better to sit down together, break bread together as neighbors, and have a calm talk about it without sh*tstarters yellin' from a podium or twitter account...

And for what it's worth, when I invite a handful of my friends and neighbors to come and sit down and burn some ribs and chicken at my small shot/warehouse and just talk, (as my late Dad taught me to do), the level and patience and respect for one another is tremendous...

And I agree with the earlier post, DeMario Davis is a legit man of his Belief in the Almighty, and we've got to stay on message and not tolerate virtue signalling, and especially not rioting and looting...

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Brees is not racist. Brees is not ignorant. Millions are racist. Millions are ignorant. All of us have beliefs that differs from others in large and small ways depending on the level of said beliefs. None of us are 100 percent correct or 100 percent wrong on 100 percent of our beliefs. Brees's original statement is not racist or ignorant. With all that's going on and due to the sensitive and volatile nature of it all, his original comments showed that he is human. Imperfect like us all. He has apologized. His apology was thoughtful and sincere. I believe his is a better person today than he was yesterday. All of us could use one of those moments. A moment of clarity. A moment of true understanding beyond ourselves.

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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Should have put this in the political forum. Nobody is saying the police don't have problems profiling blacks and using brutal tactics. It needs to stop.

On the other hand, the flag represents all that we are, good and bad and the struggle to make it better constantly. It's a symbol to the goodness of people who gave their lives in that struggle. It's not a tribute to the bad things or to showcase those things. I served 20 years, lost several friends in combat, black and white. I will never join or support any movement disrespecting my service or theirs. They say they are not doing that but they actually are doing it. That's their right to do so, I fought to give them that right but I will never support their movement until that stops.