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Well, my avatar is a priest so ...

But, I am very seldom wrong, yet when I have been, both times, I have readily admitted such.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Same here, my family says my problem is I always think I’m right. Once, I thought I made a mistake, but I was wrong...

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

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He went to hold her and she looked at him and said, "I'm sorry. I think I'm about to die." She didn't have any chance. It apparently happened so quickly,' King told the outlet.



Black lives matter. "We're sick of the injustice."
Amazing, I'm sick of you garbage killing your own ****ing babies.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Worth reading

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the...sm-11591119883

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Right on par with your usual input. Even better, you just rolled.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I was literally not provided service for having no shirt and no shoes, even though the sign said “no shirt, no shoes, no service.” But that’s beside the point.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

It’s all about the opinion that is popular at the moment. With social media the way it is it changes daily.
You oppose riots and you’re labeled a racist
You choose to protest by kneeling and you’re labeled anti American.
There is no middle ground anymore.
The only thing that will truly defeat racism is a complete change in thinking. When Floyd was murdered for the first time in history I saw conservatives, liberals, 2nd amendment and self defense advocates, police officers and everyone else who saw that video agree that it was nothing short of murder. Peoples minds started changing and people could see that the struggles of black Americans are very very real. White america was finally open to admitting the problem is much bigger than they thought.
Then the riots started as peoples minds were just beginning to change. The riots just reinforced the belief in those who think black people bring it upon themselves. Condoning the riots didn’t help an already volatile situation.
I have heard the names Brees, Thomas, Kamara, Jenkins, etc so many times in the last 72 hours I can’t even count but one name I never hear anymore is George Floyd. I have seen and heard finger pointing and have heard people demand change but I haven’t heard a single person offer a solution.
This is a conversation that needs to be had. What is it that I can do as a white American to help “fix” this problem? Please educate me so I can educate others. What can be done? What can we do together as a country?
If someone from the black community can come up with a rational and realistic solution without going to some radical extreme I want to hear it and want to be a part of it. All I hear is how white people arent listening, well I’m listening. Racism is a very real problem in America and I can’t deny it so what am I to do about it?

People need to realize there is a middle ground and there will likely be compromises on both sides. This whole all or nothing idea that people have adopted over the past few years isn’t going to work.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

You are a peculiar character. You claim to have been in every industry under the sun. I have no way of knowing the truth to these claims, but it strikes me as questionable. But you also claim to be conservative, while you are sitting there spouting political correctness.

What Drew said was not offensive. And before you say "whatever offends a person is offensive to them" - because I'm sure you will - let me offer a little sanity to counter that BS. There is no such thing as "your truth" or "my truth". There is only THE truth. Truth is not a matter of opinion. You don't get to bend reality to match your feelings. The truth is that the American flag represents America, as well as the millions who have fought for it's freedom. If you have a problem with America, the flag is not your enemy. Be that as it may, people get to have stupid opinions. That's part of being free. But only one ethnicity gets to have an opinion? I don't think so. And that is where these players, the media, and the entire left is WRONG.

You know what else is truth? "systemic racism" is a fake narrative. It does not exist. That is not my opinion, it is backed up by statistics. If Drew has to apologize for what he said (he doesn't) which was not directed at anyone, but rather a position he holds out of respect for the country he loves, then Malcolm Jenkins ABSOLUTELY should apologize to Brees for trying to control his ability to take HIS stand.

It matters not whether Jenkins directed his comments at any of us, or just Brees. It's about calling for consistency. And, by the way, if Jenkins hates Brees for what he said, then that means he hates everyone who disagrees with him. Think about that, before you try to straddle the fence with your PC nonsense.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I really don’t know how he’s going to get these guys to want to play for him anymore. Maybe he’s just a lame duck and they are using his comments as against him so they can have Winston. Wouldn’t surprise me.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

From where I stand, this is a Purge, not a protest because of BS like this below...

Guess, I'm getting too old, but my heart genuinely is hurts - HURTS - for this man tonight...

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Apology, like I said, not good enough.
Martellous Bennet is on Don Lemon ....basically calling....nevermind.

What was Brees thinking...DO NOT TALK.

If Brees had said “Death to the USA. Burn the flag.“
Today, he would have been applauded with calls of players and the media wanting him to be the next commissioner..

Up is down. What is right is wrong. Left is right. The times we are in for the rest of this year.

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There are good people in this world. Most people are good, the media wants you to fear others and believe we are all evil... don’t.

Over 6100 people donated to his go fund me and they raised over 170k in almost no time.

We are all God’s people.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Well yeah...that generally happens when people begin telling you men can have periods and men can be women and women can be men. Then the government enacts laws supporting these insane ideas. You end up being led to believe qhite people are the problem and not a culture of violence and absence of parenting. Which is why my post says rid my life of qhite liberals and many black Americans. As my son gets older I will tell him if he wants to be successful befriend Asians, stay away from black American men.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

heretic!

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

First of all, I am fiscally conservative and trending from moderate toward socially liberal over the past couple of decades.

As for the industries in which I have been involved in my 63 or so years ...

- Inoculated and pollinated corn at a Dekalb research facility
- On a long haul crew with Mayflower Moving
- Drilled holes in Weedeater carburetors on an assembly line
- Photographer/writer - Sports, news, features
- Auto sales - New and used
- Tuxedo rental - Store manager
- Earned a degree in accounting (with a heavy dose of computer science)
- Developed and maintained an information system for a major natural gas corporation
- Worked as both a senior systems and business analyst with a health insurance company associated with a large non-profit hospital system

As for your personal social beliefs, they are yours and there is no changing your mind so it is meaningless to even try.

Oh, throw in ...

- volunteers at church doing upkeep and repairs
- helps with the church food pantry serving the needy locally

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

They'll play for him because they know and respect him. They have already cleared the air on that. They'll play for him because they are football players and want to win.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Brees back put on the pathetic apology tour. Never have I lost respect for a man so quickly.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

really hard to watch Guido, I like you; you know that. And also I consider you an authority, for the most part.

But there are people, for whom the number one most important thing in all universal existence is the color of their skin, and yours. I supersedes everything, including logic, job, duty, and truth.

This cancer will not die, and they will go nowhere. And you know thats hard for me to say.

I wouldnt buy a ticket, merchandise, or watch a game, until these haters apologize to HIM and to US. (and if you know my racial makeup, i dont exactly qualify for the aryans) I mean Americans. It comes before games and sports. I can tell you Media isnt doing well this year... CBS just had massive layoffs. These fools are about to find out who pays the freight.

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I invite all of you to stop and read the 14 pages here. Everyone using different words but sounding the same; everyone wanting to be heard, but no one is listening.

Try continuing without using they or them. This country is divided into two, 'We the People' and 'the government'.

Rez made a point about what is genuine and what isn't. If you have genuine reverence for the flag you don't fly it once it is tattered, you do not fly it in inclement weather... There are 3-4 pages of etiquette and flag code regarding the United States flag that are relatively unknown much less followed by most people yelling "respect the flag".

Calls for respect for the flag feel hollow to this Veteran. They feel more like talking points than an understanding.

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This is the cry of the liberal lunatic pretending to be moderate.

When my son sees a group and asks if they're like Mommy because they're black, ill let him know, no son mommy is Haitian. Theyre black American men. They like weed, 40 oz beer, and blaming qhite people. Stay the F away!

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I am possibly misunderstanding your reply. You are referring to me as liberal?

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Well, when you say people need to listen to obvious BS, uh yeah.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Hi guys and girls. I don’t get on here much anymore....mostly because life is crazy and busy these days. But I feel the need to weigh in on this thing with Drew. I can’t even fathom what is going on. Drew Brees has shown his heart to New Orleans....the city, the communities...the state of Louisiana so many times and in so many ways that if you doubt his sincere efforts to help, you haven’t been paying attention. Without Drew, no Super Bowl, no respect, no amazing years. Michael Thomas, Malcolm Jenkins and the rest of them are so wrong for speaking against Drew. I hope MY QB takes his spoils and goes home and tells them all to have it their way. He does not in any way deserve the crap they have dealt him. I wish he would not have bowed to the front desk pressure and apologized. He had no reason to. That.is.all.

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I’m black and I don’t smoke weed, drink beer, or blame white people for nothing. I served this country and what I have I've worked hard for. What you’re saying is really out there. And I’am a moderate also so don’t say I’m a liberal cause that is far from the truth

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Do you have children? Sometimes what they have difficulty saying what they mean; the only way to know is to listen, ask questions, and listen to the answers. Emotional adults can be the same way.

If just hearing someone out is something you consider "liberal" then in your mind I suppose I am liberal.

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I said black American men. You apparently don't understand that black people feom other countries have better family values and work ethic than black American men, they do

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

outstanding

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

My son is 21 months, he's doing great. It helps thtat he's not completely full of ****, makes understanding him much easier

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

How are you not banned yet?

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

What do you mean by yet?

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I don't think you are giving these men enough credit, Mike. They all know Brees far better than us. If they say they have forgiven Brees for his words then I believe them. I believe Brees is sincere and I have no doubt they do as well. The cancer is with the media for fueling exchanges such as this. Brees and his teammates are not stupid. They know what is going on. They were able to talk personally yesterday and have apparently found common ground. People tend to react to extremes quickly these days. Brees is the same man he was one week ago. For anyone to say that they have lost respect for him forever is pretty shallow thinking.

And those haters are the media, Mike. They are the ones that fan the flames and feed the fire.

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I'am a black American just like my father and grandfathers that also served for this country. I come from a military family and grew up in a strict home. The majority of black American do. Its the minority that gives the majority a bad name. Like with cops the majority of cops are good but it’s the few bad ones that give them a bad name.

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I grew up being able to run through the streets of my town safely (except for my own stupid ideas) as young as 8... My daughters aren't safe going to the end of the block alone. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with communities being divided which allows sociopaths to navigate unnoticed between the cracks and prey on targets of opportunity.

That is not going to get fixed playing us vs them.

Cops shoot and kill 1000 people a year (documented statistic). Given the level of stress involved in those situations I assume at the very least 5% error. That is 50 innocent people killed every year. Since 2007 only 35 cops have been convicted of a bad shooting. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with Americans fighting with each other rather than their government.

That is not going to get fixed playing us vs them.

If you want to call me liberal for not being sucked into a false dichotomy... That is fine by me, the liberals call me Alt-Right for the same reason. I am comfortable on my island of clarity and peace.

Its like watching two kids fight over an ice cream while a rabid dog licks the cone clean.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Just don't watch and Billy D colt 45 commercials, they'll get you every time

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Some things aren’t worthy of response.

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I think you truly believe this. Unfortunately, in reality people are being called racist and told to stfu for saying don't kneel for the flag. Figure out a different protest. I'm qith you, I'm on your side but this one action I'm not okay with. The reply F you racist. Kneel before Zod.

Its a joke, there's nothing to learn from listening to people who lie.

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People have been calling each other things for centuries, I was just called liberal believe it or not.

Truth be told, I am as happy to be called liberal as you are seeing someone kneel for the national anthem. Yet here we are, still speaking civilly and you somehow rethought that statement without me telling you to go %&^K your self.

Cooler heads have prevailed?:bng:

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Good to see the discussions on here...

Some I don't agree with, others I do, but I value everyone expressing their opinion.

I see some people calling for posters to be banned. Regardless of what there post is, I hope we don't start going that rout. Freedom of speech is important to me, even if I disagree with what they say.