Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

These guys are professionals. Y'all are acting like they are children. They are grown up.

:rolleyes:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

That was real grown up for Brees to make those remarks after 2016 the team had a meeting to let the players know that kneeling wasn’t about disrespect the country, it’s about police brutality.

Now he make a statement at a pivotal time to change the narrative back to disrespecting the country. How do you expect us to feel?

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

He mostly likely overreacted. I'm sure it pissed off others like yourself, but as long as the two of them worked it out behind "closed doors", it no longer matters what others think.

And I'm not the one spinning anything, JP. If Jenkins, and the others, said they have spoken with Brees and they have an understanding then it is those that are making it out to be something bigger that are doing the negative spinning. It goes both ways, my friend.

:cool:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Do you really think it's all over? It's going to continue in the season if theres a season.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

What Drew said was perfectly fine. He said basically the same thing in 2016 and no one lost their **** over it. He worded it carefully and most importantly he was right. It is disrespectful. All kneeling ever did was make people mad. It didn't "raise awareness" or affect any sort of change. It was never even genuine. Your boy Kaepernick started the whole thing because he's a loser who was upset over being benched. He made it about "police brutality" because his psychotic SJW girlfriend told him to. This whole movement is propped up by a false narrative that black people are unfairly treated by police at a higher rate. We have the stats, it is demonstrably false. More than twice as many unarmed white people were killed last year as unarmed blacks (19 to 9) including a white guy who was killed in the exact same way as George Floyd. Of course any unnecessary death is tragic and wrong, and yes there are a few bad cops out there. But this whole situation was manufactured by the democratic party. They are the real oppressors of black people, have been for decades. They've told you that you aren't good enough to make it in the world yourself, that you need affirmative action and minority quotas. They have made it so that black families have no incentive to stay together (which is what the actual #1 problem for black folks is) by making it so that you basically can't get welfare or section 8 if you're married. They want your families separated and totally dependent on the government. They promise black people the world every election cycle and never deliver. Obama had 2 terms and a Democrat majority in both the house and Senate, as well as a majority in both branches of 27 state legislatures. What did he do for black people? Wake up. If you want to rage and protest, how about doing it where it counts? How about calling out the systemic racism inherent in the democratic party? They are your real enemy. Not saying Republicans are perfect, the party is stuck in the past in a lot of ways, but they aren't trying to keep you down. Republicans like it when everyone is doing well and making money because it makes the economy strong. White people aren't trying to make you less than, democrats have been force feeding you that idea for over a century. "You're not as good as the white man and he hates you for it. You need my help to ever have a chance at being on his level." Its despicable what they've done to you, ever since the slave days. Democrats had control in the south, it's their fault that you were ever slaves to begin with. And before anyone tries to come back with the bs that the Republican and Democrat parties switched platforms at some point, that is also demonstrably false, never happened. One more myth perpetuated by the democrats to keep your focus off the real problem. I want to see y'all break free from the shackles of your real oppressors. I wish the protests were happening outside Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi's houses. I don't advocate violence, but if anyone deserves to be dragged out and beaten its those 2 scumbags. The only way change will ever happen is if you quit believing the lies they're selling you and vote them out of office every chance you get.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Right on brother! Most people don't know that he was sulking after he got benched and then changed the narrative to help him change his image from a sulking diva to a man looking for change. Pulease…..:brood:

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

In a few years time, Payton will be saying letting Beth go was his biggest mistake.

He can never get it right when it comes to Women...

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Yes. I absolutely think it is all over as for any issue between Brees and the others. Do I think the protests are over? Absolutely not.

And there is very little likelihood that there will NOT be a season.

I have personally had serious disagreements with others and have calmly worked things out and mended fences. Most all of us have. Today on NFL Radio Bruce Murray and Brady Quinn were talking about this very subject and both agreed that to a man everyone on that Saints roster knows Brees as being a kind and caring individual and both sounded confident that it was not going to be an issue moving forward. That is the last thing that the general media wants because it doesn't sell clicks.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I was vehemently against the kneeling at first. I now have no issue with it at all. Today I heard a marine with over 30 years of active and reserve service and he said he fought not only for the rights of those that are opposed to that form of protest, but also for the rights of every American to engage in peaceful protest of any form, including kneeling during the anthem. I have seriously considered what my late father, also a veteran of over 30 years, would have to say about the issue. I have zero doubt he would echo the thoughts of that marine. And this isn't unique. I have heard the same from many military personnel.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Served 20 years. Was a Marine and retired Guard. I have no problem with flag burners, kneeling, KKK, Neo Nazi, BLM, Antifa or any other organization. Just so long as they do not harm anyone physically or financially. I don't like hate groups but if it's not hurting anything other than feelings so what.

What I don't like with these protests is they are blocking streets and impeding essential service like the fire dept from doing their job and EMT. They are breaking the law and should all be arrested.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Right to protest peacefully and freedom of speech are protections from government only. Not your employer

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Their employers are giving them the okay. Carry on.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

And that is your right as an American, as well.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

OAN is about as right wing as you can get. It makes FOX News seem mainstream. This isn't news. It is propaganda.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

So people who actually report on the news, which the left never does, is just propaganda? Truth is propaganda? Have you heard any reporting from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, or name your leftist network of choice, on the Obama administration's crimes? No? What do they talk about? "We hate Trump, and here's why you should, too".

You once told me you were "very conservative". And you wondered why I described you as a phony.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

And that does nothing but prove exactly what I said is correct. There is no right to protest or free speech protection at your employer. Somehow in your feeble mind you think you demonstrated a point 🤔 🤦*♂️

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

18 people murdered in Chicago. But at least tough guy Jenkins told Drew to STFU. Man what a badass. McCafferty will run around him on pass play like AK did a few years back. Remember tough guy Jenkins..lol.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Yes. I was once very conservative. I an still very fiscally conservative. But socially, at 62 years old having contact with friends from many cultures I have grown.

And, yes, I agree, all of those news sources you listed are trash as far as I am concerned. We are in agreement on that point. But, as I have grown I have learned that understanding others is not as easy as one would think. I am still growing. I truly pray you do as well. And I ain't ****tin' you. Real live prayers will be involved.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

You placed it upon on an easy tee, but I'm not going to swing.

LOL!!!

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Um, yes, your, um, point, huh? Nice post!!

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

He also fought for my right to tell the players kneeling to shove it up their ass.

They are intentionally insulting a huge portion of America. F*** em and the lying horse they rode in on.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

The media and all the people too scared to stand up for what they actually believe in will tell you you're a racist and a bigot if you don't agree Danno. You have to agree with everything they say!!!

Be careful!!! Lol

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Let me explain something. Your views of the anthem is different from my views. Historically Americans fought for our rights to protest. For all men and women to be treated fairly BUT my ancestors BLACKS that also fought in those wars for those same promise were denied those freedoms and were most of them were even targeted for wearing the uniform. Still I as a AMERICAN knows the value of being a AMERICAN citizen and proudly served in the U.S.Army National Guard at a very young age 16 when I needed my parents signature to become a recruit. After 6 years of the guards at the age of 22 I joined the regular army as a 88M motor transportation. I loved my job and proudly served my country. Reason I am saying this is for people to understand I love my country. With that being said, knowing I want and DUE the same respect as a white man in America with the choice to protest and my protest is not perceived or diluted as unamerican or that I hate Americans. Could you imagine hundreds of Black Men’s at the Capital with assault rifles demanding for justice without being met with aggression from authorities? Well that is why it’s so hurting to BLACK AMERICANS that Brees come and once again with a narrative changer about disrespect.


For white Americans to understand how we BLACKS perceive the anthem you must look at the history of the poem by Francis Scott a known racist. The poem was recommended to be the national anthem On April 10, 1918, John Charles Linthicum, U.S. congressman from Maryland, introduced a bill to officially recognize "The Star-Spangled Banner" as the national anthem.The bill did not pass. Charles made 6 attempts and it was turned down. The 3rd stanza, which is rarely sung and few know, contain the words, “No refuge could save the hireling and SLAVE, From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave”. Now you tell me what your perception of that part of the stanza? Herbert Hoover the reincarnation as Donald Trump signed this to be the national anthem. Now again I say this is not about the FLAG it’s about Police brutality and killing of Black Americans. I only mention this so you can see that our views toward as something as anthem can be looked at different.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

The beautiful thing about America, which the flag represents is that we are free to have beliefs that are contrary to others. Nowhere in the constitution does it say we can’t disrespect others beliefs.
You can oppose the riots without being a racist and you can kneel during the anthem without being anti-American. The flag can mean different things to different people.
It’s funny how some of the same people who think kneeling is disrespectful will fly a flag behind their truck until it’s tattered and in ribbons. I find that disrespectful and selective reasoning. Half the people I talk to think it’s disrespectful to not have your hand over your heart during the anthem. The hand is for the Pledge not the Anthem.
This country has turned to absolute **** anyway and I’m not even proud to be an American anymore.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Thank you for your prayers. I pray for you, as well. Because, as much as I am opposed to much of your views, I don't hate you, and I argue for the sake of truth, where I am convicted to do so.

That being said, while there is room for all of us to grow, what you are calling growth is a regression and surrender of ideals. It's easy to tell someone who doesn't agree with you that they aren't listening, and that they don't care. In some cases, that can be true. However, it could not be further from the truth, in my case. Make no mistake, I have examined the issues raised by these athletes, as well as those by all other groups like them. The statistics speak for themselves. The history of the politicians they've voted for, and the "progression" of what it has done to black families, tells a far different story from the one these groups today are protesting about.

I've heard them. Their narrative is false. There are many black folks who don't believe what these athletes are asserting on their behalf. They don't want to be painted as victims. The narrative that is being spread around right now is divisive. It drives people apart, not together. And when we bend the knee to this garbage, we are not showing how "understanding" we are. Much to the contrary, we show how LITTLE understanding we have of what is really happening, and we are perpetuating the divide of this country.

So if you want to pray for me, that's not what you need to pray about. I can use all the prayers I can get, for a lot of reasons, but on this issue, the facts are squarely on my side. Any conversation that deviates from the truth is a waste of time, and serves no purpose but to feign a moral high ground, while enabling a false narrative to drive an unnecessary divide.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

And for the record I fully support the BLM movement. White people arent the ones being treated like theirs don’t. What pisses me off is this sweeping generalization of “white privilege”
I hate what black people have had to endure and I hate that “our” ancestors allowed slavery but I will never apologize or feel less than for being white. My ancestors lived in Europe and didn’t come over here until after the Civil War.
For those of you who like to quote scripture try the part about sons not being punished for sins of their fathers.
Sweeping generalizations need to stop across the board.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

what #BlackLivesMatter want:

1) Defund the police
2) Reparations for slavery
3) Guaranteed income for minorities
4) Free college and open admissions
5) Political prisoners in jails to be released
6) Voting age lowered to 16

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

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Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I support the idea that white people arent the ones treated like their lives dont matter, not what it has turned into. It started as an awareness and unity thing and got political. I support none of the above.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

I'm just looking forward to the defunding of police. This is going to be great! Personally I feel they should defund the schools, but that's not going to happen so defunding the police is going to be a hoot in these inner cities.

Wait to see you see how much their lives matter when that goes down. Probably kill each other more, out of love of course. Their lives matter, seriously though. Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain

BTW if we just keep lying to each other it will all fix itself.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Youre right, it is about police brutality and not your own brutality. Because that still hasn't slowed. You all are still showing how much you value each other. I dont know if I can stand all that love.

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

have you ever heard of the black panthers?

*im sorry i ruined their party

Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments
 

Freedom is a hard concept for many to understand in this country. It's a massive spectrum. Burning a flag, hating Jews, Eskimos, Blacks, Cajuns are all part of that freedom. BLM has a right to protest and assemble just as muck as the KKK and it's really a good thing. These hate groups, the more they are exposed the smaller their numbers get. They look like a bunch of idiots.