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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He said the average career of an NFL player is only three years and while they may be getting paid $500K or $1M, the vast majority of them have spent that money up front on things ...

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Old 06-30-2020, 08:48 AM   #71
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He said the average career of an NFL player is only three years and while they may be getting paid $500K or $1M, the vast majority of them have spent that money up front on things they had never been able to afford before. Considering only half that check survives taxes they will all be in a major bind if they don't play. They said that unwillingness of players to play would not be a reason behind losing games.
Have you ever seen the documentary BROKE? They actually focused primarily on NBA (fully guaranteed contracts) players losing their earnings so there is definitely credence to your statement as it relates to NFL players.

Blew my mind.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:18 AM   #72
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They discussed this very subject on NFL Radio. The discussion came about when Malcolm Jenkins' interview was mentioned where he said he wouldn't want to play unless he felt safe. They said he was among the handful of NFL players that have been able to place themselves in a financial position to be able to forgo game checks. I believe it was the former Tampa Bay GM, Mark Dominik, that said unfortunately almost all the others players live up to those checks. He said the average career of an NFL player is only three years and while they may be getting paid $500K or $1M, the vast majority of them have spent that money up front on things they had never been able to afford before. Considering only half that check survives taxes they will all be in a major bind if they don't play. They said that unwillingness of players to play would not be a reason behind losing games.
Which is shocking to some but that exact characteristic isn't limited to any one collective. Scale is the only variance and even then that has no distinction when you compare players to lottery winners. Winners who did exactly the same thing but ended up worse than before they won because when the last penny was gone, they also had the burden of 'millionaires debt'.

My US Army enlistment bonus was $4,500 in 1989 less taxes of course. I was 19 years old with no less than $3000 in cash in my pocket with room/food/utilities/healthcare paid for, and job security for 4 years minimum. I lived within walking distance to the PXs hi-fidelity display area... Imagine how that ended lol. If only Bose still made 601's...

Its human nature. It's why rich parents set up trust funds and an executor in the event if their death to manage the money they leave their children for as long as they can.

In this very thread someone with a mountain of credit card debt is looking at an NFL player calling him stupid... What is missing from humanity is introspection.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:33 AM   #73
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Have you ever seen the documentary BROKE? They actually focused primarily on NBA (fully guaranteed contracts) players losing their earnings so there is definitely credence to your statement as it relates to NFL players.

Blew my mind.
I think Dominik even referenced that documentary, not by name, but by content.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:22 PM   #74
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I can quite possibly see the 2020 NFL season continue ... but without fans . The LaLiga (top professional Spanish soccer league) does it now. Kind of weird seeing that at the top level of European football however there are plans to bring back the fans (possibly at towards the end of the year) at some point with restrictions of course.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:28 PM   #75
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I can quite possibly see the 2020 NFL season continue ... but without fans . The LaLiga (top professional Spanish soccer league) does it now. Kind of weird seeing that at the top level of European football however there are plans to bring back the fans (possibly at towards the end of the year) at some point with restrictions of course.
Yes. People keep mentioning the loss of $3 billion in revenue if there are no fans in the seats, but they fail to mention the other $8 billion in lost revenue if the season isn't played at all. I just cannot envision owners ignoring $8 billion in revenue or players ignoring their portion, as well.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:31 PM   #76
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Is that what you want? To be surrounded by tens of thousands of white millennial's crawling out of their mothers basement to pretend to care out of guilt or their need to be part of a collective because they weren't accepted by the cub they wanted in High School and will forever be bitter and angry about it.

Id rather everyone stop pretending so we can see where we truly are.
I'm with you. I think you might have missed where my post was directed. It was directed at the post right before mine.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:49 PM   #77
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I'm with you. I think you might have missed where my post was directed. It was directed at the post right before mine.
Yeah. I thought Oak kinda missed the point there too. And I'm with him, also.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:18 PM   #78
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It doesn't matter how much you make, for most people, your costs eventually rise to parallel your income.
This.
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Old 07-01-2020, 05:56 AM   #79
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... Within 30 days of furloughs and paycuts, more than 80% of my office complex were borrowing against their 401Ks.

Burning money is not a racial thing, its a humanity thing, its a society thing that isnt resident with in any one culture. .
Good post, good points, and a great thought about the humanity thing. I like the sound of it.

Im not sure to what extent it is true, or to what extent your inference from my post is untrue. Im sure there are stats no one dares to research, when you people (ha! an adjective pronoun + subject/ noun - hardly an epithet) cower in fear of offending someone with pancake syrup.

This isnt scientific research; Its a small sample, but its weird that my Jewish friends dont seem to be hurting much. I can get mad at em, or I can learn from them. I live in the Barrio. We dont have a choice but to live below our means.
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I see we aren't even trying to hide the bigotry.
I guess not, when we're accusing ALL police of being evil, and telling others they're "privileged" because of the color of their skin. Sounds like hate to me. So does beating random people in the street and burning their business. I never gave a damn what color people are.

I didnt describe anything you dont see in every rap video- and these guys are proud of the image. But who confines this to a race? Im sure Asian players are livin large too.

Dont try to scare me with a word. Im not a corporation.


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Old 07-01-2020, 02:37 PM   #80
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I guess not, when we're accusing ALL police of being evil, and telling others they're "privileged" because of the color of their skin. Sounds like hate to me. So does beating random people in the street and burning their business. I never gave a damn what color people are.

I didnt describe anything you dont see in every rap video- and these guys are proud of the image. But who confines this to a race? Im sure Asian players are livin large too.

Dont try to scare me with a word. Im not a corporation.
That's some serious over-generalization.

Also, I think you need to look up the definition of bigotry. My post had nothing to do with color of skin. Bigotry exists beyond that. And I'm not trying to scare you. It's pretty blatant in your post.
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