Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired

burningmetal · 06-08-2020, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

First of all, addressing Brees' initial objection to the means of protest, he definitely didn't approve of it. Neither did many Americans, including myself. But, after meaningful conversation I have come to accept it as a very valid means of protest, as has many Americans including the NFL as a whole. Why you would demonize Brees for coming to the very same conclusion is baffling. Brees is admirable as he is willing to listen and learn. That isn't easy to do.

I understand your objection, It is your right, but as an American you should understand all of others as well.

As for the formula of your Twitter argument. I'll let you off the hook and ask you to then use "an overwhelming majority" of players with Twitter accounts as you now have amended. I'd still like to see the same calculations as requested based upon a very conservative majority of 50.0001% of the players with accounts.

Waiting ...........

You haven't had a "meaningful" conversation about any of this. You can't have a meaningful conversation about something that is based in a lie, and leads to more lies. This whole black oppression narrative is a lie. And Drew's stance was not wrong. It was his opinion, and one that I agree with. The "issue" of "systemic racism" that these players claim to be protesting is also an opinion, but one which is directly refuted by overwhelming statistics.

Where is the "conversation" about that? You, like Brees after he backpedaled, simply don't want to be vilified by the mob, and so you pretend to understand something that most people know full well to be a lie. Drew didn't just suddenly come to understand some new perspective. Anyone with the slightest common sense knows that there was a specific reason they ONLY knelt during the anthem. They were showing their disdain for America, by putting on their display during the anthem, with that big American flag waving across that field. They could have chosen ANY OTHER time to protest whatever it is they think is so racist about America. But they chose THAT time to do it. Drew knows why, I know why, you know why, everyone knows why.

It's because of the backlash that players got for their poorly timed demonstrations that they pretended then, and still do today, that it "wasn't about the flag". And now, because of the backlash Drew got, simply for answering a QUESTION honestly, he has suddenly done a 180. You know better than to believe Drew has changed his private stance. He simply changed his public stance so he'd be left alone. And guess what? Some guys still don't "forgive" Him. Read this: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/06/dre...y-nfl-reaction

Everywhere you look, people are taking shots at him, even now. I'm not going to engage in your wish for me to scour the entire twitter universe to list ever single player who came against Brees. EVERYTHING I have seen, was negative after he made his initial comments.

If you want to make a point with me, why don't you show me a list of players who tweeted about Brees' comments, who were NOT negative? Demario Davis was the one guy who seemed to not lose his mind, but he strongly believed Drew was wrong. And he can believe that all he wants. It doesn't make him right.

06-08-2020, 06:19 PM	#15
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tom Brady Reportedly Had ‘Serious Interest’ In The Saints If Drew Brees Retired Originally Posted by AsylumGuido First of all, addressing Brees' initial objection to the means of protest, he definitely didn't approve of it. Neither did many Americans, including myself. But, after meaningful conversation I have come to accept it as a very valid means of protest, as has many Americans including the NFL as a whole. Why you would demonize Brees for coming to the very same conclusion is baffling. Brees is admirable as he is willing to listen and learn. That isn't easy to do. I understand your objection, It is your right, but as an American you should understand all of others as well. As for the formula of your Twitter argument. I'll let you off the hook and ask you to then use "an overwhelming majority" of players with Twitter accounts as you now have amended. I'd still like to see the same calculations as requested based upon a very conservative majority of 50.0001% of the players with accounts. Waiting ........... You haven't had a "meaningful" conversation about any of this. You can't have a meaningful conversation about something that is based in a lie, and leads to more lies. This whole black oppression narrative is a lie. And Drew's stance was not wrong. It was his opinion, and one that I agree with. The "issue" of "systemic racism" that these players claim to be protesting is also an opinion, but one which is directly refuted by overwhelming statistics. Where is the "conversation" about that? You, like Brees after he backpedaled, simply don't want to be vilified by the mob, and so you pretend to understand something that most people know full well to be a lie. Drew didn't just suddenly come to understand some new perspective. Anyone with the slightest common sense knows that there was a specific reason they ONLY knelt during the anthem. They were showing their disdain for America, by putting on their display during the anthem, with that big American flag waving across that field. They could have chosen ANY OTHER time to protest whatever it is they think is so racist about America. But they chose THAT time to do it. Drew knows why, I know why, you know why, everyone knows why. It's because of the backlash that players got for their poorly timed demonstrations that they pretended then, and still do today, that it "wasn't about the flag". And now, because of the backlash Drew got, simply for answering a QUESTION honestly, he has suddenly done a 180. You know better than to believe Drew has changed his private stance. He simply changed his public stance so he'd be left alone. And guess what? Some guys still don't "forgive" Him. Read this: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/06/dre...y-nfl-reaction Everywhere you look, people are taking shots at him, even now. I'm not going to engage in your wish for me to scour the entire twitter universe to list ever single player who came against Brees. EVERYTHING I have seen, was negative after he made his initial comments. If you want to make a point with me, why don't you show me a list of players who tweeted about Brees' comments, who were NOT negative? Demario Davis was the one guy who seemed to not lose his mind, but he strongly believed Drew was wrong. And he can believe that all he wants. It doesn't make him right.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.