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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Washington has had that bumpy road in his football career, but I believe this is genuine UDFA gold as the raw talent is there... KW just needs coaching up, something Payton's teams haven't been too patient ...

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Old 08-30-2020, 01:20 PM   #1
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Washington has had that bumpy road in his football career, but I believe this is genuine UDFA gold as the raw talent is there...

KW just needs coaching up, something Payton's teams haven't been too patient in doing unless backed into a corner like 2017, but the results were tremendous...

All this trading up has negatively affected our ability to address multiple positions in getting youth coming in behind starters so we're not always in salary-cap purgatory...

We should be bringing in at least one new boundary CB and one S every season, with at least one Day 1 or Day 2 pick spent in that group every year...
But that's where we are investing in the trenches.

We built a strong D-line and O-line recently. Maybe it's time to invest highly in other positions.
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:21 PM   #2
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https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...4a14ff8c1.html

Jesus injuries are sure piling up.
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Yeah. Looking like we're going to have to forfeit the season.

They were talking about this today on NFL Network. Teams are sitting players with the most minor of dings just to make sure they have players ready on day one. You get a hangnail and your out until week one. That way you get to see more of the backups. Teams aren't wanting to take any chances with starters if not necessary is what they were saying.
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Well, we now know there was nothing minor about Alvin Kamara's knee, and Payton now has a consistent history of understating player injuries...
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Well, we now know there was nothing minor about Alvin Kamara's knee, and Payton now has a consistent history of understating player injuries...
And that's unfortunate.

All the reports I was reading pointed to the "ankle". Just glad AK is back to himself for 2020 & we also have a capable back #2 in L Train.
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And that's unfortunate.

All the reports I was reading pointed to the "ankle". Just glad AK is back to himself for 2020 & we also have a capable back #2 in L Train.
I'm surprised they even let us know after the fact. But, if I recall, that information came from the Kamara camp, not the Saints themselves.
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Well, we now know there was nothing minor about Alvin Kamara's knee, and Payton now has a consistent history of understating player injuries...
As do most NFL coaches if you haven't noticed. Why share information that you are not absolutely required to share? That would be counter-productive as a coach, no? I'll circle back around to arguably the greatest coach, undeniably the most successful, in NFL history, Bill Belechick. He makes Payton look like an open book when it comes to information. Things like severity on injuries should only be shared on a need to know basis and, regardless of how irritating, we as fans have no "need" to know. "Want" to know, yes. "Need" to know, no.
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But injury disclosure is required by the league so as to prevent NFL coaches, personnel from being compromised by shadier organized criminal gambling operations...

In addition, the argument that As do most NFL coaches if you haven't noticed was also the same argument used defending the Saints clubhouse teammate pool...

Brian Urlacher even admitted to it on NFL Radio as did the Redskins' safety at the time the Goodell BountyGate Beatdown went down...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
But injury disclosure is required by the league so as to prevent NFL coaches, personnel from being compromised by shadier organized criminal gambling operations...

In addition, the argument that As do most NFL coaches if you haven't noticed was also the same argument used defending the Saints clubhouse teammate pool...

Brian Urlacher even admitted to it on NFL Radio as did the Redskins' safety at the time the Goodell BountyGate Beatdown went down...
Once again, you are wishing for something that does not exist in the real world. No NFL coach divulges more than they can get away with. It doesn't matter that it isn't right. It is the way things are and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change that fact.

Oh, by the way, Kamara's knee WAS reported on the injury report ...

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November 6, 2019 5:23 pm ET

The New Orleans Saints will host the Atlanta Falcons in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome on Sunday in a Week 10 NFC South matchup. This will be the first matchup of the season for the two bitter rivals.

The initial injury reports published by the Saints and the Jaguars on Wednesday are the initial reports for the week. A second, updated report will be released on Thursday. The final injury report with game status for certain players will be issued on Friday. Daily changes in practice participation are noted in bold text.

Running back Alvin Kamara has been absent from the lineup after injuring his ankle (during practice in Week 5) and then his knee (against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 6). After two games of rest, and the bye week, Kamara should be ready to go. Tight end Jared Cook will be another playmaker to keep tabs on as the week progresses. Cook has been absent for the last two games the Saints have played, and should return to the lineup on Sunday.

From the Saints

TE Jared Cook (Ankle) Full
WR Tre’Quan Smith (Ankle) Full
QB Drew Brees (Rt. Thumb) Full
CB Patrick Robinson (Hamstring) Limited
RB Alvin Kamara (Knee/Ankle) Limited
TE Josh Hill (Calf) Limited

From the Falcons

RB Ito Smith (Neck) Did not participate
DE John Cominsky (Ankle) Did not participate
G James Carpenter (Knee) Limited
QB Matt Ryan (Ankle) Limited
CB Desmond Trufant (Toe) Limited
G Jamon Brown (Foot) Limited
G Wes Schweitzer (Head) Limited
TE Jaden Graham (Knee) Limited

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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