Kamara is now holding out

The Dude · 09-01-2020, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Give it another 5 or 10 years and I think the treatment for neurological issues will be far better and more advanced. You might have to get that Neuralink chip from Elon Musk though.

How long were you in pain after you had it? Did it fix the issue?

SmashMouth · 09-01-2020, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm all for trading him and picking up LF. All for it. Kamara is a gadget(scat) back that has to have a big hole to run between tackles, LF can make his own hole, smashing and gashing. LF is the perfect back with Murray to beat a D into submission.Ground game well over 125 yds per game. Ground and pound with most opposing D's playing the passing game now days would be the way to go, and totally take pressure of of Brees, oh, we have the O-line to do it with to.

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AsylumGuido · 09-01-2020, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Looks like Kamara is going to practice tomorrow. He was out due to an epidural steroid shot in his back. I was NOT a fan of that shot.

I've had plenty of those. Not fun.

AsylumGuido · 09-01-2020, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Yep I get L1-L2 and L2-L3 infusion every 60-75 days ... Hate riding that steroid train but helps with QOL.

I get C6-C7 ESI's (Epidural Steriod Injections)as needed about three times a year. Also get radio frequency ablation (RF's) bilaterally of the facet joints C4-C7 twice a year. Those are far more invasive, but work far better for the problems there.

rezburna · 09-01-2020, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

How long were you in pain after you had it? Did it fix the issue?

I stayed in near debilitating pain for another 2 weeks after the shot. I couldn’t really walk for 2 weeks prior to the shot, so I was down for over a month total. I’ve had a sort of numb feeling in big toe eversince. I couldn’t sleep. Went from 190 lbs to 170 lbs because I lost my appetite. It didn’t go away until my sister in law gave me roxicodone. I refuse to take medicine, but I was desperate. I finally started being able to sleep and the pain went from debilitating to just my normal back pain I’ve been dealing with since I was 18. That’s when I realized it can be extremely easy to get addicted to pills if you’re always in pain.

I’m rambling. But I work in x-ray so I’ve run the c-arm in thousands of those procedures. Results are a mixed bag. Some people get relief for months, some don’t really get any at all.

spkb25 · 09-02-2020, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/josinaanderson/s...90569049346053

I pounded this idea during the draft and people thought I was crazy. He was hurt last year, and you could tell. If the saints get 3 more years at a high level they'll be fortunate. He is amazing, but the pounding( not the same as Drew was taking this offseason) will take its toll on anyone.

WillSaints81 · 09-02-2020, 01:20 AM

We have to worry about Lattimore and Ram, and they are more important.

gosaints1 · 09-02-2020, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I pounded this idea during the draft and people thought I was crazy. He was hurt last year, and you could tell. If the saints get 3 more years at a high level they'll be fortunate. He is amazing, but the pounding( not the same as Drew was taking this offseason) will take its toll on anyone.

By his own admission, he recently said the injury was very serious. So, you have a legitimate point wrt that knee’s health. Not to mention there is significant history with that knee going all the way back to his redshirted freshman year attending Alabama, which required arthroscopic surgery, LCL tear iirc. And additional damage, missing games while at Tenn.

Just like DB#9’s arm, I want to see Kamara’s knee in action, and hold up repeatedly to the rigors of the game. If the deep ball play is called and Payton habitually brings in Taysom, then that’s the proof in the pudding, regardless of what any forumite here may state. Same for Kamara’s knee..., in all truthiness the fact that he’s already needing an epidural steroid injection worries me quite a bit wrt his “overall” health, I keep in mind that I’m not a fly on the wall there, so I know nothing truly about what’s going on in Kamara world. I’ll withhold judgement on that until the play on the field is shown. Play on the field..., the only thing that matters.

Regardless of what happens, or him staying/going, I like the young man. I’ve never read a story that spoke of him in anything other than a positive light. We’ve all made mistakes, and I hope he is healthy and successful wherever he roams. Preferably staying, lol.

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 08:43 AM

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly misinformation spreads across the internet. So much of it is based upon blogs containing "what if" scenarios due to the lack of real news. They are immediately interpreted by a lazy portion of readers as based in fact who immediately share with like thinking friends or, even worse, embellish it more with their own interpretation. Remember the game in class where one person whispered a designated message in the second person's ear and it is passed throughout the room the same way? Remember that result?

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

By his own admission, he recently said the injury was very serious. So, you have a legitimate point wrt that knee’s health. Not to mention there is significant history with that knee going all the way back to his redshirted freshman year attending Alabama, which required arthroscopic surgery, LCL tear iirc. And additional damage, missing games while at Tenn.

Just like DB#9’s arm, I want to see Kamara’s knee in action, and hold up repeatedly to the rigors of the game. If the deep ball play is called and Payton habitually brings in Taysom, then that’s the proof in the pudding, regardless of what any forumite here may state. Same for Kamara’s knee..., in all truthiness the fact that he’s already needing an epidural steroid injection worries me quite a bit wrt his “overall” health, I keep in mind that I’m not a fly on the wall there, so I know nothing truly about what’s going on in Kamara world. I’ll withhold judgement on that until the play on the field is shown. Play on the field..., the only thing that matters.

Regardless of what happens, or him staying/going, I like the young man. I’ve never read a story that spoke of him in anything other than a positive light. We’ve all made mistakes, and I hope he is healthy and successful wherever he roams. Preferably staying, lol.

I think rezburna can verify this, but I am fairly sure that ESI's are not that uncommon in athletes. I do know that they require obtaining from vigorous activities for a short period (a day or two at least) following the procedure ... and for some of the worried few out there, the last I heard was they do not lead to being traded.

09-01-2020, 09:41 PM	#71
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by rezburna Give it another 5 or 10 years and I think the treatment for neurological issues will be far better and more advanced. You might have to get that Neuralink chip from Elon Musk though. How long were you in pain after you had it? Did it fix the issue?
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09-01-2020, 10:06 PM	#72
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,068 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm all for trading him and picking up LF. All for it. Kamara is a gadget(scat) back that has to have a big hole to run between tackles, LF can make his own hole, smashing and gashing. LF is the perfect back with Murray to beat a D into submission.Ground game well over 125 yds per game. Ground and pound with most opposing D's playing the passing game now days would be the way to go, and totally take pressure of of Brees, oh, we have the O-line to do it with to. Twitter halloween 65 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,070	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by rezburna Looks like Kamara is going to practice tomorrow. He was out due to an epidural steroid shot in his back. I was NOT a fan of that shot. I've had plenty of those. Not fun. rezburna likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,070	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Yep I get L1-L2 and L2-L3 infusion every 60-75 days ... Hate riding that steroid train but helps with QOL. I get C6-C7 ESI's (Epidural Steriod Injections)as needed about three times a year. Also get radio frequency ablation (RF's) bilaterally of the facet joints C4-C7 twice a year. Those are far more invasive, but work far better for the problems there.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,868	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by The Dude How long were you in pain after you had it? Did it fix the issue? I stayed in near debilitating pain for another 2 weeks after the shot. I couldn’t really walk for 2 weeks prior to the shot, so I was down for over a month total. I’ve had a sort of numb feeling in big toe eversince. I couldn’t sleep. Went from 190 lbs to 170 lbs because I lost my appetite. It didn’t go away until my sister in law gave me roxicodone. I refuse to take medicine, but I was desperate. I finally started being able to sleep and the pain went from debilitating to just my normal back pain I’ve been dealing with since I was 18. That’s when I realized it can be extremely easy to get addicted to pills if you’re always in pain. I’m rambling. But I work in x-ray so I’ve run the c-arm in thousands of those procedures. Results are a mixed bag. Some people get relief for months, some don’t really get any at all. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/josinaanderson/s...90569049346053 I pounded this idea during the draft and people thought I was crazy. He was hurt last year, and you could tell. If the saints get 3 more years at a high level they'll be fortunate. He is amazing, but the pounding( not the same as Drew was taking this offseason) will take its toll on anyone. gosaints1 likes this.

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09-02-2020, 08:32 AM	#78
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by spkb25 I pounded this idea during the draft and people thought I was crazy. He was hurt last year, and you could tell. If the saints get 3 more years at a high level they'll be fortunate. He is amazing, but the pounding( not the same as Drew was taking this offseason) will take its toll on anyone. By his own admission, he recently said the injury was very serious. So, you have a legitimate point wrt that knee’s health. Not to mention there is significant history with that knee going all the way back to his redshirted freshman year attending Alabama, which required arthroscopic surgery, LCL tear iirc. And additional damage, missing games while at Tenn. Just like DB#9’s arm, I want to see Kamara’s knee in action, and hold up repeatedly to the rigors of the game. If the deep ball play is called and Payton habitually brings in Taysom, then that’s the proof in the pudding, regardless of what any forumite here may state. Same for Kamara’s knee..., in all truthiness the fact that he’s already needing an epidural steroid injection worries me quite a bit wrt his “overall” health, I keep in mind that I’m not a fly on the wall there, so I know nothing truly about what’s going on in Kamara world. I’ll withhold judgement on that until the play on the field is shown. Play on the field..., the only thing that matters. Regardless of what happens, or him staying/going, I like the young man. I’ve never read a story that spoke of him in anything other than a positive light. We’ve all made mistakes, and I hope he is healthy and successful wherever he roams. Preferably staying, lol. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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09-02-2020, 08:43 AM	#79
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,070	Re: Kamara is now holding out It never ceases to amaze me how quickly misinformation spreads across the internet. So much of it is based upon blogs containing "what if" scenarios due to the lack of real news. They are immediately interpreted by a lazy portion of readers as based in fact who immediately share with like thinking friends or, even worse, embellish it more with their own interpretation. Remember the game in class where one person whispered a designated message in the second person's ear and it is passed throughout the room the same way? Remember that result?

09-02-2020, 08:51 AM	#80
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,070	Re: Kamara is now holding out Originally Posted by gosaints1 By his own admission, he recently said the injury was very serious. So, you have a legitimate point wrt that knee’s health. Not to mention there is significant history with that knee going all the way back to his redshirted freshman year attending Alabama, which required arthroscopic surgery, LCL tear iirc. And additional damage, missing games while at Tenn. Just like DB#9’s arm, I want to see Kamara’s knee in action, and hold up repeatedly to the rigors of the game. If the deep ball play is called and Payton habitually brings in Taysom, then that’s the proof in the pudding, regardless of what any forumite here may state. Same for Kamara’s knee..., in all truthiness the fact that he’s already needing an epidural steroid injection worries me quite a bit wrt his “overall” health, I keep in mind that I’m not a fly on the wall there, so I know nothing truly about what’s going on in Kamara world. I’ll withhold judgement on that until the play on the field is shown. Play on the field..., the only thing that matters. Regardless of what happens, or him staying/going, I like the young man. I’ve never read a story that spoke of him in anything other than a positive light. We’ve all made mistakes, and I hope he is healthy and successful wherever he roams. Preferably staying, lol. I think rezburna can verify this, but I am fairly sure that ESI's are not that uncommon in athletes. I do know that they require obtaining from vigorous activities for a short period (a day or two at least) following the procedure ... and for some of the worried few out there, the last I heard was they do not lead to being traded.