Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion

09-02-2020, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”.

I like Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia is great.

gosaints1 · 09-02-2020, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I like Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia is great.

lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all.

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”.

My guess would be the most common use among athletes ... disc herniation. It can cause pain, but isn't usually debilitating. Many people have it for periods of time thinking they've pulled a muscle or something. They heal easily with the help of inflammatory medications like NSAIDS or steroids. An epidural simply pinpoints the medication rather than a general oral delivery. They are extremely minor procedures and literally take less than two minutes. Like I said, I've had around twenty of them myself. I'd be surprised if a decent percentage of the entire roster doesn't have at least one before or during the season.

Halo · 09-02-2020, 04:03 PM

Now, after Gayle Benson visited practice, Sean Payton says they are actively negotiating an extension. I think they shopped him, nobody wants a trade right now, and Kamara realized that the Saints are his best bet to get "McCaffery" money next season if he performs uninjured this season.

Kamara practiced on Wednesday, which he reportedly hadn’t been doing due to an injury — or an “injury.” Coach Sean Payton confirmed that player and team currently are trying to work out an extension.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-alvin-kamara/

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all.

Actually, stopping off at Ben and Jerry's is a decent analogy, gosaints1. About a month ago I asked my doctor during my latest follow-up for an ESI to help with some headaches I knew were coming from my stenosis and I was in the next morning at 7:30 and on with my daily routine an hour later. Most of the time is spent waiting your turn. He probably does a dozen or more an hour.

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Now, after Gayle Benson visited practice, Sean Payton says they are actively negotiating an extension. I think they shopped him, nobody wants a trade right now, and Kamara realized that the Saints are his best bet to get "McCaffery" money next season if he performs uninjured this season.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-alvin-kamara/

Of course no one wants to trade a 1st rounder for a player who is wanting a large contract. I seriously doubt they "shopped" him though, Halo. I don't doubt they received a few calls, however. Other teams are going to do their own due diligence and ask.

His agent said he has been in the facility every day (getting his required COVID-19 tests) and hasn't been holding out. Having the ESI would explain the absence. Something else to consider is if you are getting close to making a deal what one thing could blow that deal out of the water? An injury in practice. It is actually quite common for an agent to hold their player out of practice during negotiations for this very reason.

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 04:25 PM

Kamara's agent, Bilbo: Okay, Al. We're getting close but I don't want to give in yet. You know that procedure the doc said would relieve that minor pain?

Kamara: Yeah. Why?

Bilbo: Well if we get that done now we could try to use that as an excuse to avoid getting dinged in case we have to miss five days of practice.

Kamara: Why do I need to miss practice?

Bilbo: If you get hurt before I get this deal done we're **** out of luck.

Kamara: Gotcha, Boss.

jeanpierre · 09-02-2020, 08:31 PM

Beastmode · 09-02-2020, 08:48 PM

Patriots in this situation would be close to a sweet trade setting them up for a couple years. No RB in their system is ever getting a big payday. Never.

We are keeping him but seriously, would you rather create a SB victories making machine or Kamara. Hard for people with high emotions to accept that fact but I am the devil..meh. I'm not the devil though. I want SB victories.

Halo · 09-02-2020, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Patriots in this situation would be close to a sweet trade setting them up for a couple years. No RB in their system is ever getting a big payday. Never.

We are keeping him but seriously, would you rather create a SB victories making machine or Kamara. Hard for people with high emotions to accept that fact but I am the devil..meh. I'm not the devil though. I want SB victories.

I think they're talking about an extension or incentives for this season. I'd rather not take an even larger cap hit this season trying to pay him. I think other teams don't want to trade either.

09-02-2020, 03:23 PM	#41
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09-02-2020, 03:28 PM	#42
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09-02-2020, 03:45 PM	#43
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by gosaints1 Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”. My guess would be the most common use among athletes ... disc herniation. It can cause pain, but isn't usually debilitating. Many people have it for periods of time thinking they've pulled a muscle or something. They heal easily with the help of inflammatory medications like NSAIDS or steroids. An epidural simply pinpoints the medication rather than a general oral delivery. They are extremely minor procedures and literally take less than two minutes. Like I said, I've had around twenty of them myself. I'd be surprised if a decent percentage of the entire roster doesn't have at least one before or during the season.
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09-02-2020, 04:03 PM	#44
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,604 Blog Entries: 45	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Now, after Gayle Benson visited practice, Sean Payton says they are actively negotiating an extension. I think they shopped him, nobody wants a trade right now, and Kamara realized that the Saints are his best bet to get "McCaffery" money next season if he performs uninjured this season. Kamara practiced on Wednesday, which he reportedly hadn’t been doing due to an injury — or an “injury.” Coach Sean Payton confirmed that player and team currently are trying to work out an extension. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-alvin-kamara/ jeanpierre likes this.

09-02-2020, 04:05 PM	#45
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Fox8NewOrleans \| Report: Saints open to trading Alvin Kamara Originally Posted by gosaints1 lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all. Actually, stopping off at Ben and Jerry's is a decent analogy, gosaints1. About a month ago I asked my doctor during my latest follow-up for an ESI to help with some headaches I knew were coming from my stenosis and I was in the next morning at 7:30 and on with my daily routine an hour later. Most of the time is spent waiting your turn. He probably does a dozen or more an hour.

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09-02-2020, 04:13 PM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by Halo Now, after Gayle Benson visited practice, Sean Payton says they are actively negotiating an extension. I think they shopped him, nobody wants a trade right now, and Kamara realized that the Saints are his best bet to get "McCaffery" money next season if he performs uninjured this season. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-alvin-kamara/ Of course no one wants to trade a 1st rounder for a player who is wanting a large contract. I seriously doubt they "shopped" him though, Halo. I don't doubt they received a few calls, however. Other teams are going to do their own due diligence and ask. His agent said he has been in the facility every day (getting his required COVID-19 tests) and hasn't been holding out. Having the ESI would explain the absence. Something else to consider is if you are getting close to making a deal what one thing could blow that deal out of the water? An injury in practice. It is actually quite common for an agent to hold their player out of practice during negotiations for this very reason. Halo and K Major like this.
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09-02-2020, 04:25 PM	#47
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Kamara's agent, Bilbo: Okay, Al. We're getting close but I don't want to give in yet. You know that procedure the doc said would relieve that minor pain? Kamara: Yeah. Why? Bilbo: Well if we get that done now we could try to use that as an excuse to avoid getting dinged in case we have to miss five days of practice. Kamara: Why do I need to miss practice? Bilbo: If you get hurt before I get this deal done we're **** out of luck. Kamara: Gotcha, Boss.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Patriots in this situation would be close to a sweet trade setting them up for a couple years. No RB in their system is ever getting a big payday. Never. We are keeping him but seriously, would you rather create a SB victories making machine or Kamara. Hard for people with high emotions to accept that fact but I am the devil..meh. I'm not the devil though. I want SB victories.
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09-02-2020, 11:34 PM	#50
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,604 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by Beastmode Patriots in this situation would be close to a sweet trade setting them up for a couple years. No RB in their system is ever getting a big payday. Never. We are keeping him but seriously, would you rather create a SB victories making machine or Kamara. Hard for people with high emotions to accept that fact but I am the devil..meh. I'm not the devil though. I want SB victories. I think they're talking about an extension or incentives for this season. I'd rather not take an even larger cap hit this season trying to pay him. I think other teams don't want to trade either.