M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints

Rsanders24 · 09-28-2020, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I disagree with you, and I think you've missed what the article states. He didn't say they killed just Brees' mojo. He said they killed the team's mojo.

It's also not about players intentionally not doing things to spite Brees. It's about the fractured state of the locker room, that he believes, and I would tend to concur, have probably affected that team. Brees gave in to their demands to get by, but after the nasty things that were said to him, it's hard to believe they could ever be a cohesive unit again.

I believe you said something earlier about other teams being undefeated as an example why the Saints shouldn't be affected. I fail to see how that has anything to do with the Saints. Can you name another team who had any player, much less the starting QB, get verbally assaulted by his teammates? All the other players around the league just fell right in line, because they didn't want the backlash, one would assume. But Brees spoke his mind, got attacked, and gave in. The so-called "leader" of the team has now been neutered. Unless you can point to another example of that happening, I don't think any of your arguments hold water, my friend.

Based on that statement which was directed at two players and pertains to three that were mentioned, this was about Brees. Two players called Brees out. You are assuming that the entire team was torn on this matter when based on what we know, but everyone only mentions Brees as the one who was slighted or damaged by this situation. So if Brees is the only one who everyone says is the victim, why is the team as a whole not playing well?

My point is people need to stop making this an excuse. They supposedly resolved this during the summer. If this fractured this team then they weren’t that strong to start with. I don’t have to be your friend to accomplish a team goal.

For a group of professionals that is not acceptable and for a player of Brees statue, along with other veterans and captains on this team. I think/hope that they/he could overcome this. If it was that much of an issue, as I said Brees should have stood on what he said and if they didn’t like it, retire. Why put yourself through all this. If as you said he let another man “neuter him” then he should have manned up. As I said before, Brees could have simply stood on his belief or walked away.

Brees doesn’t play defense and he isn’t having issues with timing. He is however not able to push the ball down the field and has been inaccurate on some of his throws when he is trying to put some velocity on the ball.

If this team was 3-0 or even 2-1 this wouldn’t even be a conversation. Now the reason we are losing is because of mojo....

09-28-2020, 11:13 PM	#11
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: M Jenkins and Michael Thomas killed the Saints Originally Posted by burningmetal I disagree with you, and I think you've missed what the article states. He didn't say they killed just Brees' mojo. He said they killed the team's mojo. It's also not about players intentionally not doing things to spite Brees. It's about the fractured state of the locker room, that he believes, and I would tend to concur, have probably affected that team. Brees gave in to their demands to get by, but after the nasty things that were said to him, it's hard to believe they could ever be a cohesive unit again. I believe you said something earlier about other teams being undefeated as an example why the Saints shouldn't be affected. I fail to see how that has anything to do with the Saints. Can you name another team who had any player, much less the starting QB, get verbally assaulted by his teammates? All the other players around the league just fell right in line, because they didn't want the backlash, one would assume. But Brees spoke his mind, got attacked, and gave in. The so-called "leader" of the team has now been neutered. Unless you can point to another example of that happening, I don't think any of your arguments hold water, my friend. Based on that statement which was directed at two players and pertains to three that were mentioned, this was about Brees. Two players called Brees out. You are assuming that the entire team was torn on this matter when based on what we know, but everyone only mentions Brees as the one who was slighted or damaged by this situation. So if Brees is the only one who everyone says is the victim, why is the team as a whole not playing well? My point is people need to stop making this an excuse. They supposedly resolved this during the summer. If this fractured this team then they weren’t that strong to start with. I don’t have to be your friend to accomplish a team goal. For a group of professionals that is not acceptable and for a player of Brees statue, along with other veterans and captains on this team. I think/hope that they/he could overcome this. If it was that much of an issue, as I said Brees should have stood on what he said and if they didn’t like it, retire. Why put yourself through all this. If as you said he let another man “neuter him” then he should have manned up. As I said before, Brees could have simply stood on his belief or walked away. Brees doesn’t play defense and he isn’t having issues with timing. He is however not able to push the ball down the field and has been inaccurate on some of his throws when he is trying to put some velocity on the ball. If this team was 3-0 or even 2-1 this wouldn’t even be a conversation. Now the reason we are losing is because of mojo.... shawnkytonk likes this.