Wow, this is the quietest I've seen this forum after a win

[Cruize]

-Brees looked his best so far this year. To be clear, Brees has never had a big arm by NFL standards. He had a good enough arm. He made up for it by working harder than most. By having great timing and anticipation on his throws. By having a coach who is creative and understanding of his strengths. By having guys he could count on like Colston and Thomas. But, make no mistake, his arm strength is less this year.
-Great game plan on both sides of the ball. The offense ran the ball and was more creative overall. I saw routes and plays I haven't seen before or at least lately. The defense manned up and played with more agression and effort.
-Murray, T. Smith, P. Rob and Sanders looked great.
-The injuries are past concerning.
-The penalties on Anzalone were atrocious.
-Making even the playoffs in the NFC is going to be tough.

[vpheughan]

9-54
Matthew Stafford career vs winning teams: 9-54 The more ya know.

[Beastmode]

Going to be interesting how players contracts get paid for the NFL and NBA. The TV contracts won't be as lucrative. Image they take out loans with conditions. Like no more politics on the field period.

[FinSaint]

I would imagine that TV deals won't be coming down in value as fans are forced to watch the games instead of attending them in person.

The revenue losses caused by the lack of attendance is probably the bigger source of budgetory issues.

Note that I'm talking from my behind without any actual facts.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I would imagine that TV deals won't be coming down in value as fans are forced to watch the games instead of attending them in person.

The revenue losses caused by the lack of attendance is probably the bigger source of budgetory issues.

Note that I'm talking from my behind without any actual facts.

TV revenues are up and they are expecting huge increases when the next network deals are up in the Spring. With virtually all new programming coming to a halt the advertisers are throwing their whole budgets to sports programming advertising. Companies have a fixed ad budget and they plan to spend those dollars on the programming with the highest overall rating. That is NFL every week and it isn't even close.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I would imagine that TV deals won't be coming down in value as fans are forced to watch the games instead of attending them in person.

The revenue losses caused by the lack of attendance is probably the bigger source of budgetory issues.

Note that I'm talking from my behind without any actual facts.

Here's an article that explains in more detail ... Sept. 10, 2020

The NFL Returns, Giving Struggling Networks a $5 Billion Ad Revenue Lifeline

“We’ve got a marginalized college football season,” said Dan Lovinger, evp of advertising sales at NBC Sports Group. “And there’s no doubt there’s diminished capacity overall in prime time over the past couple of years. That is leading marketers to say, where can I go find quality ratings and reach, and Sunday Night Football is first in line for most marketers there.”

As a result, NBC Sports has seen greater Sunday Night Football demand this year than it did at this point last year, said Lovinger, while Fox’s NFL sales are also pacing ahead of previous years, according to a source. And CBS has sold as much NFL inventory going into the season as it did at the same point last season, said John Bogusz, evp, sports sales and marketing, CBS Network sales.

Even in a normal year, the NFL would have been one of TV’s top draws this fall. “The NFL is an important asset from a media plan execution standpoint. It is a consistent product that delivers significant ratings week in and week out without some of the challenges that entertainment programming has, and you know what you’re getting into,” said Gibbs Haljun, total investment lead at GroupM’s Mindshare. “So that creates this opportunity, particularly in the current environment, for clients to look at: Is there a way to expand?”

[gosaints1]

Don’t listen to anybody else wrt ratings. There are very few ppl who aren’t blindingly biased on this topic and are trying to sell a Pontiac Fiero with a body kit to you as a Ferrari. Do your own research as far as ratings. Anybody in the football biz or network media who tells you things are great is selling you the Pontiac Ferrari, same can be said for the opposite “I hate the NFL” boycott crowd, anybody who’s telling you the NFL sky is crumbling is selling you the same Pontiac Ferrari. The truth is there..., in the middle somewhere, changing from game to game, week to week, network affiliate to..., well you get the point.

I use the site below for my “raw” viewer numbers. But choose your own weapon:

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl...hip-2020-2019/

I’m not buying that load AG, you’re quoting network tv and media, their nom de plume is pro NFL bias.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Don’t listen to anybody else wrt ratings. There are very few ppl who aren’t blindingly biased on this topic and are trying to sell a Pontiac Fiero with a body kit to you as a Ferrari. Do your own research as far as ratings. Anybody in the football biz or network media who tells you things are great is selling you the Pontiac Ferrari, same can be said for the opposite “I hate the NFL” boycott crowd, anybody who’s telling you the NFL sky is crumbling is selling you the same Pontiac Ferrari. The truth is there..., in the middle somewhere, changing from game to game, week to week, network affiliate to..., well you get the point.

I use the site below for my “raw” viewer numbers. But choose your own weapon:

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl...hip-2020-2019/

I’m not buying that load AG, you’re quoting network tv and media, their nom de plume is pro NFL bias.

You're missing the point, gosaints1. Advertising revenues are not tied to absolute ratings. The pricing is based upon relative ratings and is measured in cost per minute. Most of the season's TV advertising spots have already been sold during scheduled NFL broadcasts and pricing per minute was up over last season. That's pretty much the same MO as every year.

Revenues can, and do, rise even while ratings may be down when the programming is bringing in a greater share than all other programming on at the same time. "Raw" viewer numbers are fine and how the viewership should be measured. Now go a step further and compare those "raw" numbers to the "raw" numbers for all other programming in the same windows.

[Beastmode]

Paid TV has been steadily declining for years. When the new ATSC 3.0 (antenna TV) is in full force it will do a few things. Establish a la carte for anything, create a lot more free channels in 4K and better sound and free TV can be watched from anywhere on any device.

The era of cable TV is dying. The way revenue is generated for sports is going to change drastically. Already starting to see it with sports a la carte on Amazon Prime. People won't be paying $100 or more a month for cable for channels they do not want.

[gosaints1]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Paid TV has been steadily declining for years. When the new ATSC 3.0 (antenna TV) is in full force it will do a few things. Establish a la carte for anything, create a lot more free channels in 4K and better sound and free TV can be watched from anywhere on any device.

The era of cable TV is dying. The way revenue is generated for sports is going to change drastically. Already starting to see it with sports a la carte on Amazon Prime. People won't be paying $100 or more a month for cable for channels they do not want.

Absolute facts here. Just like print media died and was relegated to niche markets only, cable company’s will follow suit. They will either change..., or die.