Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South

10-13-2020, 04:07 PM

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turbo_dog · 10-13-2020, 04:21 PM

Cesar Ruiz - 65 (86%)
Ruiz came in for Nick Easton, who left early due to a concussion. Overall, the rookie is holding his own. Easton getting the start at right guard over him has puzzled some, but it's all coming together.

I guess that answers my question.

AsylumGuido · 10-13-2020, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, that kinda has a bearing on whether the team is successful or not and you've got that Mr. Sunshine disposition that we love after a win...

And is so far as what others have to say, that's just sprinkles on the ice cream of a Saints game, sometimes it's chocolate, sometimes nuts, but no matter others' takes, have my own unique take and it's all good...

While it does have a bearing on whether a team is successful or not, my stressing over what they do or don't do has zero impact on what they actually do or do not do in the future. That's my point. Why stress over something that you (not meaning you) have no control over.

Win or lose some people fixate on the negatives. From my point of view nothing can be gained by that but increased anxiety. Perhaps others get some sort of pleasure out of it, however. I don't know.

All I said was that coming in here during a game, or after a loss, or even after a win, does not add to my enjoyment of my Saints whatsoever when I am bombarded by pointless (as in they can accomplish nothing) complaints.

I honestly believe that some get more entertainment out of the critique than of the actual games themselves. But, if that's what blows their skirts up, then fine. Just sharing my opinion.

That all said, I'll be seeing very little of y'all over the next ten days or so since I'll be on the road taking in four or five of my son's shows in Nashville and then cruising a bit of Route 66 on a round-a-bout way back home. A good way to spend a bye week.

jeanpierre · 10-13-2020, 06:06 PM

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SaintGnome · 10-13-2020, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/BarryHirstius/st...80338414391297

Gloomy posters, sad to be you.

The Dude · 10-13-2020, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

While it does have a bearing on whether a team is successful or not, my stressing over what they do or don't do has zero impact on what they actually do or do not do in the future. That's my point. Why stress over something that you (not meaning you) have no control over.

Win or lose some people fixate on the negatives. From my point of view nothing can be gained by that but increased anxiety. Perhaps others get some sort of pleasure out of it, however. I don't know.

All I said was that coming in here during a game, or after a loss, or even after a win, does not add to my enjoyment of my Saints whatsoever when I am bombarded by pointless (as in they can accomplish nothing) complaints.

I honestly believe that some get more entertainment out of the critique than of the actual games themselves. But, if that's what blows their skirts up, then fine. Just sharing my opinion.

That all said, I'll be seeing very little of y'all over the next ten days or so since I'll be on the road taking in four or five of my son's shows in Nashville and then cruising a bit of Route 66 on a round-a-bout way back home. A good way to spend a bye week.

“You” are not bombarded with anything you narcissistic *****. Unless you have bought into some delusion that you are part of the team which honestly wouldn’t surprise me.

FinSaint · 10-14-2020, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I heard Mike Detiller mention a few times that Dennis Allen's scheme is too damn complex. Why not simplify it and put players in position to make plays? PRob, Jenkins, Marcus are no rookies but often look perplexed out there. I refuse to believe that we have 11 scrubs out there on defense.

Collectively, we must play better on defense if we want to hang out with the big boys in late January.

Yes, but Dennis doesn't want to be second-bested by daddy-Sean, so he has to have as many substitutions and schemes on defense as there are on the offensive side.

FinSaint · 10-14-2020, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Cesar Ruiz - 65 (86%)

Ruiz came in for Nick Easton, who left early due to a concussion. Overall, the rookie is holding his own. Easton getting the start at right guard over him has puzzled some, but it's all coming together.

I guess that answers my question.

They are probably just trying to bring him along slowly, since his conditioning isn't at the level of the other guys because of the time missed due to injury.

dizzle88 · 10-14-2020, 06:54 AM

Lol Now people are saying Dennis Allen's D is too complex, eventually you have to look for common denominators as the exact same thing was said about Rob Ryan.

Either Payton and the staff are consistently drafting and signing dumb players or Payton himself is the issue.

saintsfan1976 · 10-14-2020, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We’ve seen a lot worse as fans. They really only gave up 20 points last night. Brees gave the Chargers the other 7.

We gave up 20 to a rookie QB. We gave up 20 on the same busted coverages we've seen since week one.

If we don't come out of the bye week with a more cohesive performance in the secondary, good QBs will continue to exploit the weakness and we're at a best a one and done playoff team.

Hopefully an improved pass rush will allow DA to put his players in a better position to succeed.

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10-13-2020, 04:21 PM	#32
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,576	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Cesar Ruiz - 65 (86%) Ruiz came in for Nick Easton, who left early due to a concussion. Overall, the rookie is holding his own. Easton getting the start at right guard over him has puzzled some, but it's all coming together. I guess that answers my question. The Dude likes this.

10-13-2020, 04:33 PM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,045	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, that kinda has a bearing on whether the team is successful or not and you've got that Mr. Sunshine disposition that we love after a win... And is so far as what others have to say, that's just sprinkles on the ice cream of a Saints game, sometimes it's chocolate, sometimes nuts, but no matter others' takes, have my own unique take and it's all good... While it does have a bearing on whether a team is successful or not, my stressing over what they do or don't do has zero impact on what they actually do or do not do in the future. That's my point. Why stress over something that you (not meaning you) have no control over. Win or lose some people fixate on the negatives. From my point of view nothing can be gained by that but increased anxiety. Perhaps others get some sort of pleasure out of it, however. I don't know. All I said was that coming in here during a game, or after a loss, or even after a win, does not add to my enjoyment of my Saints whatsoever when I am bombarded by pointless (as in they can accomplish nothing) complaints. I honestly believe that some get more entertainment out of the critique than of the actual games themselves. But, if that's what blows their skirts up, then fine. Just sharing my opinion. That all said, I'll be seeing very little of y'all over the next ten days or so since I'll be on the road taking in four or five of my son's shows in Nashville and then cruising a bit of Route 66 on a round-a-bout way back home. A good way to spend a bye week. SaintGnome likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by AsylumGuido While it does have a bearing on whether a team is successful or not, my stressing over what they do or don't do has zero impact on what they actually do or do not do in the future. That's my point. Why stress over something that you (not meaning you) have no control over. Win or lose some people fixate on the negatives. From my point of view nothing can be gained by that but increased anxiety. Perhaps others get some sort of pleasure out of it, however. I don't know. All I said was that coming in here during a game, or after a loss, or even after a win, does not add to my enjoyment of my Saints whatsoever when I am bombarded by pointless (as in they can accomplish nothing) complaints. I honestly believe that some get more entertainment out of the critique than of the actual games themselves. But, if that's what blows their skirts up, then fine. Just sharing my opinion. That all said, I'll be seeing very little of y'all over the next ten days or so since I'll be on the road taking in four or five of my son's shows in Nashville and then cruising a bit of Route 66 on a round-a-bout way back home. A good way to spend a bye week. “You” are not bombarded with anything you narcissistic *****. Unless you have bought into some delusion that you are part of the team which honestly wouldn’t surprise me.
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10-14-2020, 02:51 AM	#37
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by K Major I heard Mike Detiller mention a few times that Dennis Allen's scheme is too damn complex. Why not simplify it and put players in position to make plays? PRob, Jenkins, Marcus are no rookies but often look perplexed out there. I refuse to believe that we have 11 scrubs out there on defense. Collectively, we must play better on defense if we want to hang out with the big boys in late January. Yes, but Dennis doesn't want to be second-bested by daddy-Sean, so he has to have as many substitutions and schemes on defense as there are on the offensive side.

10-14-2020, 02:58 AM	#38
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by turbo_dog Cesar Ruiz - 65 (86%) Ruiz came in for Nick Easton, who left early due to a concussion. Overall, the rookie is holding his own. Easton getting the start at right guard over him has puzzled some, but it's all coming together. I guess that answers my question. They are probably just trying to bring him along slowly, since his conditioning isn't at the level of the other guys because of the time missed due to injury.

10-14-2020, 06:54 AM	#39
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Lol Now people are saying Dennis Allen's D is too complex, eventually you have to look for common denominators as the exact same thing was said about Rob Ryan. Either Payton and the staff are consistently drafting and signing dumb players or Payton himself is the issue.

10-14-2020, 07:41 AM	#40
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by rezburna We’ve seen a lot worse as fans. They really only gave up 20 points last night. Brees gave the Chargers the other 7. We gave up 20 to a rookie QB. We gave up 20 on the same busted coverages we've seen since week one. If we don't come out of the bye week with a more cohesive performance in the secondary, good QBs will continue to exploit the weakness and we're at a best a one and done playoff team. Hopefully an improved pass rush will allow DA to put his players in a better position to succeed.