USA Today Saints Wire | Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents

rezburna · 10-22-2020, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Know I can be a bit of an apologist for Mr. Marcus as I'm a big fan of his, but there's a couple of points to consider...

He was the second highest rated safety his rookie year and he has regressed - and it's not just him, but the entire secondary...

Lattimore has regressed; Crawley came out great and regressed; Apple was playing great, injury, never the same; Jackrabbit was a second shut-down CB and then he started giving up big plays...

So is it the player or the coaching/scheme?

Definitely scheme. How often do you see Williams single high safety having to cover the entirety of the field? He ain’t Earl Thomas. He ain’t Ed Reed. Only special athletes can do that. If he’s the single high in a cover 3 that’s cool ever now and then, but in cover 1? He ain’t that. They need to run 2 man under and Cover 2. They’d do a lot better keeping **** in front of them in cover 2 and just coming up for the tackle. Take Anzalone out and put Jenkins in as the “LB” dropping deep.

Cruize · 10-23-2020, 12:41 AM

Great rookie season until the Vikes debacle. He just hasn't looked the same since. Decent ball skills. Below average tackler. Playing safety in today's NFL is brutal. You can't hit anyone. If you touch anyone you're flagged. Vertical routes are ran on every passing down. And the NFL has a lot of freakishly talented TE's. If any team offers him above average to high end money, he shouldn't need an agent to sign the deal.

ChrisXVI · 10-23-2020, 08:55 AM

Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft?

rezburna · 10-23-2020, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft?

I don’t know if we’ll be able to get him, but I love Trevon Moehrig from TCU. Him and Jaycee Horn are two DB’s that really flash for me. Horn plays corner for South Carolina. What I like about both of them, they have no issue with just swatting the ball. It doesn’t always have to be an interception. Let the receiver go and attack the ball. An incomplete pass is PERFECTLY fine.

jeanpierre · 10-23-2020, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft?

Bubba Bolden, Paris Ford, Jevon Holland, Reed Blakenship...

rezburna · 10-24-2020, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft?

Say bruh, turn on the Oklahoma TCU game. Moehrig is all over the field. Excellent coverage.

K Major · 10-23-2020, 11:45 AM

Due to covid 19, not really sure what's what in the 2021 draft, however the Saints need a safety who doesn't get confused in zone, miss tackles or bow down to the challenge of covering those big boy TE's man on man.

The lack of situational awareness & decision making on the back end is killing us & will do so again in the post season if not corrected.

K Major · 10-24-2020, 12:47 PM

Check out this kid ....

Andre Cisco*, S, Syracuse

Consistent tackler with instincts.

Sainters7 · 10-24-2020, 04:08 PM

Happens to the best of us bruh

. Good on ya for dropping the weight after playing though! O/D lineman? Those guys all seem to shed serious weight after retiring.

WillMacKenzie · 10-24-2020, 05:53 PM

The next Ed Reed needs another agent?

10-22-2020, 04:57 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre Know I can be a bit of an apologist for Mr. Marcus as I'm a big fan of his, but there's a couple of points to consider... He was the second highest rated safety his rookie year and he has regressed - and it's not just him, but the entire secondary... Lattimore has regressed; Crawley came out great and regressed; Apple was playing great, injury, never the same; Jackrabbit was a second shut-down CB and then he started giving up big plays... So is it the player or the coaching/scheme? Definitely scheme. How often do you see Williams single high safety having to cover the entirety of the field? He ain’t Earl Thomas. He ain’t Ed Reed. Only special athletes can do that. If he’s the single high in a cover 3 that’s cool ever now and then, but in cover 1? He ain’t that. They need to run 2 man under and Cover 2. They’d do a lot better keeping **** in front of them in cover 2 and just coming up for the tackle. Take Anzalone out and put Jenkins in as the “LB” dropping deep. gosaints1 likes this.
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10-23-2020, 12:41 AM	#2
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Great rookie season until the Vikes debacle. He just hasn't looked the same since. Decent ball skills. Below average tackler. Playing safety in today's NFL is brutal. You can't hit anyone. If you touch anyone you're flagged. Vertical routes are ran on every passing down. And the NFL has a lot of freakishly talented TE's. If any team offers him above average to high end money, he shouldn't need an agent to sign the deal.
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10-23-2020, 08:55 AM	#3
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10-23-2020, 09:04 AM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft? I don’t know if we’ll be able to get him, but I love Trevon Moehrig from TCU. Him and Jaycee Horn are two DB’s that really flash for me. Horn plays corner for South Carolina. What I like about both of them, they have no issue with just swatting the ball. It doesn’t always have to be an interception. Let the receiver go and attack the ball. An incomplete pass is PERFECTLY fine. Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

10-23-2020, 09:44 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft? Bubba Bolden, Paris Ford, Jevon Holland, Reed Blakenship... ChrisXVI likes this.

10-24-2020, 12:16 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Hey Rez, are there any safeties in the college game that you think we should look at in the draft? Say bruh, turn on the Oklahoma TCU game. Moehrig is all over the field. Excellent coverage. ChrisXVI likes this.

10-23-2020, 11:45 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Due to covid 19, not really sure what's what in the 2021 draft, however the Saints need a safety who doesn't get confused in zone, miss tackles or bow down to the challenge of covering those big boy TE's man on man. The lack of situational awareness & decision making on the back end is killing us & will do so again in the post season if not corrected.

10-24-2020, 12:47 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Check out this kid .... Andre Cisco*, S, Syracuse Consistent tackler with instincts. rezburna likes this.

10-24-2020, 04:08 PM	#9
Sainters7 Registered Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 48	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents Happens to the best of us bruh . Good on ya for dropping the weight after playing though! O/D lineman? Those guys all seem to shed serious weight after retiring.
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10-24-2020, 05:53 PM	#10
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: USA Today Saints Wire \| Amid a contract year, Saints safety Marcus Williams changes agents The next Ed Reed needs another agent?