I still don’t understand why we’re sitting here talking about defense. We shouldn’t be looking for the defense to be the strength of a team with an offensive minded coach. I expect the offense to perform the way they’re supposed to.

I expect a HOF QB to put up points like one. I expect us to get 6 points when we get into the redzone regardless who the defense is. I expect a “HOF” coach to call better plays. Playcalling has been a problem week in and week out for years. I know...but look at the PPG and yards then right? Cool. Look at where I defense is ranked then.

How many years did people say if we even had a middle of the pack defense we could win the Super Bowl? Now we gotta have the 2001 Super Bowl Champs defense for people to be satisfied. We give up big plays? Yeah. So does every other defense in the NFL. I was watching Harrison Smith give up plays in coverage right before the Saints game. **** happens.

When we have a chance to score TD’s we need to score TD’s. Period. The New Orleans Saints should never get 3 and outted on offense. Not with all that hype surrounding Brees, Kamara, and Payton.

Great Points, one question - Is Sean Payton really a HOF coach?

Having Brees all these years, unfettered organization power, and only one SuperBowl title? I'm no longer on that bandwagon...

I still don’t understand why we’re sitting here talking about defense. We shouldn’t be looking for the defense to be the strength of a team with an offensive minded coach. I expect the offense to perform the way they’re supposed to.

I expect a HOF QB to put up points like one. I expect us to get 6 points when we get into the redzone regardless who the defense is. I expect a “HOF” coach to call better plays. Playcalling has been a problem week in and week out for years. I know...but look at the PPG and yards then right? Cool. Look at where I defense is ranked then.

How many years did people say if we even had a middle of the pack defense we could win the Super Bowl? Now we gotta have the 2001 Super Bowl Champs defense for people to be satisfied. We give up big plays? Yeah. So does every other defense in the NFL. I was watching Harrison Smith give up plays in coverage right before the Saints game. **** happens.

When we have a chance to score TD’s we need to score TD’s. Period. The New Orleans Saints should never get 3 and outted on offense. Not with all that hype surrounding Brees, Kamara, and Payton.

I don't disagree with anything you said, every-team plays with injury and they are expected to win with what they brought. There is a lot going on with this team this year to be honest and it doesn't seem the fanbase are tempering their expectations.

At a high level when I look at the two squads yesterday I see an offense with multiple injuries listed not meeting expectations and a defense with zero injuries listed not meeting expectations.

I also saw a HOF punter not spin the FU$%ing laces on a FG which is a huge WTF moment....

I think part of Paytons play calling is actually his methodology. He calls plays based on his gut and when you do that on a small level you become unpredictable, when you do that on a large scale you become extremely predictable because your gut responses tend to be consistently the same based on the same environmental influences if that makes sense... sort of like fight or flight instantly narrows possible actions.

This is 2020, I am taking the whole year with a grain of salt..

When Payton had the sideline accident at Tampa and Carmichael took over the play-calling, found that rejuvenated the Saints offense and when Payton resumed those duties, he changed his style - for a while...

Three things that need to happen with this team right now...

Starts at the top with Payton turning play-calling over to Carmichael, at least for a while, to keep opponents from locking-in, especially those that set Taysom up to fail (not saying it's intentional)...

Second, Dennis Allen needs to be fired, he's been just as horrible as Ryan, Spagnuolo were and a message of accountability needs to be sent to the players...

Third, safety play has been atrocious with definite confusion with a number of missed assignments, and poor execution, especially tackling - we need a change there...

Some have made the point that we can win with this Brad Johnson approach on offense; this is true, if we had a defense that could get off the field on third and long...

I still don’t understand why we’re sitting here talking about defense. We shouldn’t be looking for the defense to be the strength of a team with an offensive minded coach. I expect the offense to perform the way they’re supposed to.

I expect a HOF QB to put up points like one. I expect us to get 6 points when we get into the redzone regardless who the defense is. I expect a “HOF” coach to call better plays. Playcalling has been a problem week in and week out for years. I know...but look at the PPG and yards then right? Cool. Look at where I defense is ranked then.

How many years did people say if we even had a middle of the pack defense we could win the Super Bowl? Now we gotta have the 2001 Super Bowl Champs defense for people to be satisfied. We give up big plays? Yeah. So does every other defense in the NFL. I was watching Harrison Smith give up plays in coverage right before the Saints game. **** happens.

When we have a chance to score TD’s we need to score TD’s. Period. The New Orleans Saints should never get 3 and outted on offense. Not with all that hype surrounding Brees, Kamara, and Payton.