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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If your definition of lighting us up is having a few key scrambles on broken plays, then you were wrong. Otherwise, he only managed the second fewest passing yards the Saints have surrendered all season. It ...

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Old 12-17-2020, 08:06 AM   #1
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Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
If your definition of lighting us up is having a few key scrambles on broken plays, then you were wrong. Otherwise, he only managed the second fewest passing yards the Saints have surrendered all season.
It is difficult to tell if you are that myopic or if you think we are? That argument might fly on other boards but not here buddy lol.

QBs have feet to go along with the arm and that one ran for 106 yards averaging 5.8 YPC, threw 30 passes without a single interception, and was never sacked.

For a rookie QB against a "top defense" that is lights out football. No mistakes against a seasoned defense is all it takes to win in most cases.
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Old 12-17-2020, 11:35 AM   #2
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It is difficult to tell if you are that myopic or if you think we are? That argument might fly on other boards but not here buddy lol.

QBs have feet to go along with the arm and that one ran for 106 yards averaging 5.8 YPC, threw 30 passes without a single interception, and was never sacked.

For a rookie QB against a "top defense" that is lights out football. No mistakes against a seasoned defense is all it takes to win in most cases.
If our offense wasn't so anemic we could have won the game easily and Hurts' running would have simply been a side note. His passing attack was pedestrian, managing only a 83.6 rating. For comparison, Hill had a 102.0 rating. Hurts' "bad throw" rate was 23.1% (Hill's was 18.9%). His completed air yards per attempt was a miniscule 1.6 yards. However, they did have 120 yards after catch. We had only 113 on eleven more completions. Those numbers are not indicative of having "lit someone up".

Our playing from behind the entire game put a ton of pressure on the defense. It created over-pursuit (we blitzed 12 times!) which resulted in those big plays on the ground. 40% of Hurts' rushing yards came on four scrambles. He had 14 other carries for the remainder.

By the way, Miles Sanders had over 71% of his 115 yards on one play. He only averaged 2.4 YPC on the other 13.

Hill's (and Payton's) inability to generate any offense in the first half is what allowed the Eagles' ground game to shred our tiring defense early on. Mistakes just compounded the problem. A few big plays, a bad interception, a bad fumble, and two missed FG's is what lit us up.

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Old 12-17-2020, 03:09 PM   #3
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If our offense wasn't so anemic we could have won the game easily and Hurts' running would have simply been a side note. His passing attack was pedestrian, managing only a 83.6 rating. For comparison, Hill had a 102.0 rating. Hurts' "bad throw" rate was 23.1% (Hill's was 18.9%). His completed air yards per attempt was a miniscule 1.6 yards. However, they did have 120 yards after catch. We had only 113 on eleven more completions. Those numbers are not indicative of having "lit someone up".

Our playing from behind the entire game put a ton of pressure on the defense. It created over-pursuit (we blitzed 12 times!) which resulted in those big plays on the ground. 40% of Hurts' rushing yards came on four scrambles. He had 14 other carries for the remainder.

By the way, Miles Sanders had over 71% of his 115 yards on one play. He only averaged 2.4 YPC on the other 13.

Hill's (and Payton's) inability to generate any offense in the first half is what allowed the Eagles' ground game to shred our tiring defense early on. Mistakes just compounded the problem. A few big plays, a bad interception, a bad fumble, and two missed FG's is what lit us up.
If you were trying to answer my first question in as many words as possible; congratulations, you answered in spades.
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Old 12-17-2020, 04:38 PM   #4
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Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s

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If our offense wasn't so anemic we could have won the game easily and Hurts' running would have simply been a side note. His passing attack was pedestrian, managing only a 83.6 rating. For comparison, Hill had a 102.0 rating. Hurts' "bad throw" rate was 23.1% (Hill's was 18.9%). His completed air yards per attempt was a miniscule 1.6 yards. However, they did have 120 yards after catch. We had only 113 on eleven more completions. Those numbers are not indicative of having "lit someone up".

Our playing from behind the entire game put a ton of pressure on the defense. It created over-pursuit (we blitzed 12 times!) which resulted in those big plays on the ground. 40% of Hurts' rushing yards came on four scrambles. He had 14 other carries for the remainder.

By the way, Miles Sanders had over 71% of his 115 yards on one play. He only averaged 2.4 YPC on the other 13.

Hill's (and Payton's) inability to generate any offense in the first half is what allowed the Eagles' ground game to shred our tiring defense early on. Mistakes just compounded the problem. A few big plays, a bad interception, a bad fumble, and two missed FG's is what lit us up.
It is really amazing that you are so willing to pass off this loss entirely on the poor performance of the offense and specifically Hill and be willing to overlook the equally, if not more, crappy performance of the D. Yet another rookie QB kicks the Saints ass (something you will STILL argue against) and you are going to harp on Hill not reading the D when he’s dodging D linemen left and right. Nice.
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Old 12-17-2020, 04:49 PM   #5
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Re: Question about Saints losing to backup/rookie Qb’s

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It is really amazing that you are so willing to pass off this loss entirely on the poor performance of the offense and specifically Hill and be willing to overlook the equally, if not more, crappy performance of the D. Yet another rookie QB kicks the Saints ass (something you will STILL argue against) and you are going to harp on Hill not reading the D when he’s dodging D linemen left and right. Nice.
Of course the defense is at fault, as well. But is it because the opposing QB was a rookie in his first start and special?

Sorry, don't buy that.

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