Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss

12-21-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

You would think we would be on the phone with Stills last night.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...48344479719427

Dawg.

His approach and mentality to the game is impressive.

I came away impressed with all 11 guys on defense against the champs.

IMO we have a Super bowl caliber defense.

cmike · 12-21-2020, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Who all got injured. How serious did it look for Hendrickson and Ceedy?

CJGJ and Peat returned. Trey, Marcus and 3Quan didn’t return.

Rugby Saint II · 12-21-2020, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

CJGJ and Peat returned. Trey, Marcus and 3Quan didn’t return.

I believe that Peat is one of our problems on offense. We are better without him. We've had injuries up and down the line and have not built continuity which spills over to the rest of the team. Ruiz is a little undersized to play guard. He isn't very tall and that lower center of gravity helps him control those big boys in the middle. He's still pretty young and he has plenty of room for growing in an NFL weight room. Mc Coy is a bit of a mauler and will be a solid guard next year.

Edit: Trequan just drops too many balls, doesn't get separation and still seems to be missing the "it" factor. Maybe he'll be better when he comes back.

dizzle88 · 12-21-2020, 12:11 PM

To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks.

In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered.

Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected.

Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly

iceshack149 · 12-21-2020, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks.

In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered.

Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected.

Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly

I think Jordan is still great. Every time I saw a replay he was being obviously held and got zero calls from the refs on it. That's why he lost his cool and swung. He was wrong for throwing hands but I get it.

The Dude · 12-21-2020, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dawg.

His approach and mentality to the game is impressive.

I came away impressed with all 11 guys on defense against the champs.

IMO we have a Super bowl caliber defense.

I think they are at the point where it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. Can’t believe I’m saying it but they are.
Mahommes looked like he didn’t want to be there anymore midway through the 4th. I think you will see him on the injury report.

st thomas · 12-21-2020, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

This game was pretty simple...

Run the ball and wear down their D. You need to keep Pat on the sidelines, your defense fresh and Brees as limited as possible. You accomplish all of those things by running the ball.

What did we do?
We stop KC in their first possession.

Run AK for 5 yds
Brees with 2 incomplete passes
punt

We stop KC again on a 3 and out

Brees incomplete
AK for 5 yds
Brees picked off

KC goes 30 yds for an easy TD

Drew started 0/6 with a sack and 1 INT

Sean Payton lost this game before it started. Drew was rusty and should have stayed on the bench, but even with him playing we had success running the ball. Run the ball and play good defense, we don't have the QB to win 30+ point games. If Sean doesn't wake up to what this team really is GB will beat us this same way a month from now.

Bingo

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jeanpierre · 12-21-2020, 01:21 PM

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WW_Who_Dat · 12-21-2020, 01:31 PM

Understand how you feel about the offensive play calling ... My take means as much as yours ... if we had the Oline to run consistently we would. We can’t gain separation with 1 wide receiver and play fake with full backfield and Brees not able to stay in the pocket for 3.0 seconds. When we spread the field we force the defense to commit to either man to man or zone and that when Brees was successful.

Cooks, not sure what the issue is but if he doesn’t turn the page soon he will be replaced by Johnston. That little ditty with Brees 4th qtr Brees called out the hot read at the line and Cooks blew it. Happens but but his interaction with Brees ... that a problem.

Bottom line coaches coaches and we Monday morning Quarterback.

K Major · 12-21-2020, 01:34 PM

Not having Mike Thomas was huge.

12-21-2020, 11:13 AM	#21
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12-21-2020, 11:15 AM	#22
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by The Dude Who all got injured. How serious did it look for Hendrickson and Ceedy? CJGJ and Peat returned. Trey, Marcus and 3Quan didn’t return.

12-21-2020, 11:54 AM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by cmike CJGJ and Peat returned. Trey, Marcus and 3Quan didn’t return. I believe that Peat is one of our problems on offense. We are better without him. We've had injuries up and down the line and have not built continuity which spills over to the rest of the team. Ruiz is a little undersized to play guard. He isn't very tall and that lower center of gravity helps him control those big boys in the middle. He's still pretty young and he has plenty of room for growing in an NFL weight room. Mc Coy is a bit of a mauler and will be a solid guard next year. Edit: Trequan just drops too many balls, doesn't get separation and still seems to be missing the "it" factor. Maybe he'll be better when he comes back.
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12-21-2020, 12:11 PM	#24
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks. In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered. Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected. Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly jeanpierre likes this.

12-21-2020, 12:33 PM	#25
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,085 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by dizzle88 To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks. In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered. Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected. Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly I think Jordan is still great. Every time I saw a replay he was being obviously held and got zero calls from the refs on it. That's why he lost his cool and swung. He was wrong for throwing hands but I get it.

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12-21-2020, 12:48 PM	#27
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by blackangold This game was pretty simple... Run the ball and wear down their D. You need to keep Pat on the sidelines, your defense fresh and Brees as limited as possible. You accomplish all of those things by running the ball. What did we do? We stop KC in their first possession. Run AK for 5 yds Brees with 2 incomplete passes punt We stop KC again on a 3 and out Brees incomplete AK for 5 yds Brees picked off KC goes 30 yds for an easy TD Drew started 0/6 with a sack and 1 INT Sean Payton lost this game before it started. Drew was rusty and should have stayed on the bench, but even with him playing we had success running the ball. Run the ball and play good defense, we don't have the QB to win 30+ point games. If Sean doesn't wake up to what this team really is GB will beat us this same way a month from now. Bingo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,163 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Understand how you feel about the offensive play calling ... My take means as much as yours ... if we had the Oline to run consistently we would. We can’t gain separation with 1 wide receiver and play fake with full backfield and Brees not able to stay in the pocket for 3.0 seconds. When we spread the field we force the defense to commit to either man to man or zone and that when Brees was successful. Cooks, not sure what the issue is but if he doesn’t turn the page soon he will be replaced by Johnston. That little ditty with Brees 4th qtr Brees called out the hot read at the line and Cooks blew it. Happens but but his interaction with Brees ... that a problem. Bottom line coaches coaches and we Monday morning Quarterback.

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