Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss

dizzle88 · 12-21-2020, 12:11 PM

To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks.

In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered.

Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected.

Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly

iceshack149 · 12-21-2020, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks.

In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered.

Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected.

Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly

I think Jordan is still great. Every time I saw a replay he was being obviously held and got zero calls from the refs on it. That's why he lost his cool and swung. He was wrong for throwing hands but I get it.

K Major · 12-21-2020, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks.

Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly

Patrick does this to ELITE DE's every week though.

I thought Davenport had #15 under serious duress most of the game. Nothing appeared easy but he's the best QB in the NFL.

dizzle88 · 12-21-2020, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Patrick does this to ELITE DE's every week though.

I thought Davenport had #15 under serious duress most of the game. Nothing appeared easy but he's the best QB in the NFL.

When UDFA Carl Granderson and 3rd round pick Hendrickson creates more pressure than a guy that two first round picks were spent on, consider me concerned.

K Major · 12-21-2020, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

When UDFA Carl Granderson and 3rd round pick Hendrickson creates more pressure than a guy that two first round picks were spent on, consider me concerned.

It is what it is. Trey got swallowed up vs Philly just last week and is bad in run support. Granderson is a good rotational piece. Not an every down DE/pass rusher.

Check out the piece Underhill did on Davenport last month. This guy creates problems and destruction as well as setting the edge.

Saints can build a competitive defense around Marcus. I'm just not as down on him as others.

Rsanders24 · 12-21-2020, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

It is what it is. Trey got swallowed up vs Philly just last week and is bad in run support. Granderson is a good rotational piece. Not an every down DE/pass rusher.

Check out the piece Underhill did on Davenport last month. This guy creates problems and destruction as well as setting the edge.

Saints can build a competitive defense around Marcus. I'm just not as down on him as others.

Davenport had a lot of pressures, where he collapsed the pocket. As you mentioned, he can set the edge better to support the run than Trey.

He is very similar to Jordan...not a speed edge rusher but he can be an every down end. He gets a lot of flack on this site because he isn’t flashy but he makes plays and pressures that help others to get sacks.

I don’t care who gets them since in a lot of cases it takes a team effort.

12-21-2020, 12:33 PM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,407 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by dizzle88 To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks. In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered. Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected. Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly I think Jordan is still great. Every time I saw a replay he was being obviously held and got zero calls from the refs on it. That's why he lost his cool and swung. He was wrong for throwing hands but I get it.

12-21-2020, 02:07 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by dizzle88 To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks. Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly Patrick does this to ELITE DE's every week though. I thought Davenport had #15 under serious duress most of the game. Nothing appeared easy but he's the best QB in the NFL. Rsanders24 likes this.

12-21-2020, 02:13 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by K Major Patrick does this to ELITE DE's every week though. I thought Davenport had #15 under serious duress most of the game. Nothing appeared easy but he's the best QB in the NFL. When UDFA Carl Granderson and 3rd round pick Hendrickson creates more pressure than a guy that two first round picks were spent on, consider me concerned. jeanpierre and bobdog86 like this.

12-21-2020, 02:28 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by dizzle88 When UDFA Carl Granderson and 3rd round pick Hendrickson creates more pressure than a guy that two first round picks were spent on, consider me concerned. It is what it is. Trey got swallowed up vs Philly just last week and is bad in run support. Granderson is a good rotational piece. Not an every down DE/pass rusher. Check out the piece Underhill did on Davenport last month. This guy creates problems and destruction as well as setting the edge. Saints can build a competitive defense around Marcus. I'm just not as down on him as others. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II and Lord_Saint83 like this.

12-21-2020, 04:37 PM	#6
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss Originally Posted by K Major It is what it is. Trey got swallowed up vs Philly just last week and is bad in run support. Granderson is a good rotational piece. Not an every down DE/pass rusher. Check out the piece Underhill did on Davenport last month. This guy creates problems and destruction as well as setting the edge. Saints can build a competitive defense around Marcus. I'm just not as down on him as others. Davenport had a lot of pressures, where he collapsed the pocket. As you mentioned, he can set the edge better to support the run than Trey. He is very similar to Jordan...not a speed edge rusher but he can be an every down end. He gets a lot of flack on this site because he isn’t flashy but he makes plays and pressures that help others to get sacks. I don’t care who gets them since in a lot of cases it takes a team effort. AsylumGuido, K Major and Lord_Saint83 like this.

12-21-2020, 12:11 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Saints again start slow, sloppy with comeback falling short; here's what happened in Chiefs loss To me, Davenport is just a waste of draft picks. In a game where you desperately need the players you spent a hefty amount on to step up, he just withered. Hendrickson and Granderson were hitting or sacking Mahomes any chance they got. Whereas Jordan and Davenport were invisible whenever they were on the field. Once again, Jordan couldn't beat a 3rd string Tackle and got himself ejected. Mahomes broke Davenports ankles repeatedly jeanpierre likes this.