Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles

rezburna · 12-25-2020, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I don’t agree with that... what’s your reasoning behind Anzalone ?

He’s horrendous in pass coverage. That’s why the Saints were so active in trading for a linebacker. They brought Alexander in for a reason. Anzalone doesn’t even rotate in the game now that Alexander is here. He’s horrible. As soon as he comes in bad things happen.

ChrisXVI · 12-25-2020, 07:35 PM

We need Hendrickson and Malcom Brown back. If our D-Line can get back to full strength and our secondary stays healthy we may be able to survive. If we have to play more dime then so be it.

The fascinating thing to see now will be how we handle Kwon’s contract situation in the offseason. He has a $13.4 million cap hit next year with no dead money if released. He’s a perfect candidate for an extension to keep him around and lower the cap hit, but this injury complicates matters.

SmashMouth · 12-25-2020, 07:37 PM

Neauuuuuuux!

Boston Saint · 12-25-2020, 07:38 PM

Gardner hits like a LB at times.

papz · 12-28-2020, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Gardner hits like a LB at times.

I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there.

I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2020, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there.

I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats.

Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

K Major · 12-28-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

Exactly.

Saints need to find a capable back up in case Alex goes down as we enter post season. I love Craig R but he's too slow and nothing more than a special teamer at this point of his career.

Demario won't be able to roam now that Kwon is out.

AsylumGuido · 12-28-2020, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him.

And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2020, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments.

Would you trust him?

RefsRobbedUs · 12-25-2020, 08:08 PM

It’s a wrap was hoping he would be healthy so we could get him cheap next year

Alexander has no guarantees in his contract for 2021 (there is a vesting injury guarantee which basically offers no protection) so the $13.4 million cost that this will have for 2021 is meaningless since they can walk away with no issue. If he plays great they could look to recover the 5th round pick, but most likely this will be a player who is released come March. There is $0 dead money for the Saints if cut

12-25-2020, 08:15 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,010	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by blackangold I don’t agree with that... what’s your reasoning behind Anzalone ? He’s horrendous in pass coverage. That’s why the Saints were so active in trading for a linebacker. They brought Alexander in for a reason. Anzalone doesn’t even rotate in the game now that Alexander is here. He’s horrible. As soon as he comes in bad things happen. saintsfan1976, Rugby Saint II, cmike and 3 others like this.

12-25-2020, 07:35 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles We need Hendrickson and Malcom Brown back. If our D-Line can get back to full strength and our secondary stays healthy we may be able to survive. If we have to play more dime then so be it. The fascinating thing to see now will be how we handle Kwon’s contract situation in the offseason. He has a $13.4 million cap hit next year with no dead money if released. He’s a perfect candidate for an extension to keep him around and lower the cap hit, but this injury complicates matters. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

12-25-2020, 07:37 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,514 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Neauuuuuuux!

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12-28-2020, 10:39 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,772	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by Boston Saint Gardner hits like a LB at times. I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there. I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats. Boston Saint likes this.

12-28-2020, 10:42 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,991 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by papz I just want to say that he's my sub LB on Madden and he wrecks there. I'm not exactly the biggest Anzalone fan but he's been pretty consistent all year... better than Kwon as some have pointed out. The difference IMO is the energy Kwon brings which isn't measured in stats. Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him. turbo_dog, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

12-28-2020, 11:13 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,769 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him. Exactly. Saints need to find a capable back up in case Alex goes down as we enter post season. I love Craig R but he's too slow and nothing more than a special teamer at this point of his career. Demario won't be able to roam now that Kwon is out. jeanpierre likes this.

12-28-2020, 11:30 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,547	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Stats aside, I noticed a marked improvement in the ENTIRE defense when Kwon came aboard. PFF can't measure that. It also leads me to think Anzalone's teammates possibly don't trust him. And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL).

12-28-2020, 04:52 PM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,991 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And how did you come up with that stretch of a conclusion? Perhaps it had something to do with facing four straight abysmal opponents in his (Alexander's) first four games (SF, ATL, DEN, ATL). Well, several reasons but for one, Anzalone’s playing time decreased with each week. He couldn’t cover passing routes. He couldn’t blitz. He missed too many assignments. Would you trust him? K Major likes this.

12-25-2020, 08:08 PM	#10
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles It’s a wrap was hoping he would be healthy so we could get him cheap next year Alexander has no guarantees in his contract for 2021 (there is a vesting injury guarantee which basically offers no protection) so the $13.4 million cost that this will have for 2021 is meaningless since they can walk away with no issue. If he plays great they could look to recover the 5th round pick, but most likely this will be a player who is released come March. There is $0 dead money for the Saints if cut
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