Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles

Boston Saint · 12-25-2020, 10:28 PM

There is no sugar coating the fact that losing Kwon is a big blow on the surface. However, the only way forward I see is to buckle down with the roster as is and go forward. Much like the thread about signing Stills or another FA WR, there isn’t going to be a player available that can step in week 17 and help.

If/when the D line gets healthy for the playoff push and the secondary is intact for the massive push a healthy D-line can provide AND the Offense can rack up 50 points like tonight....then I still like the chances of another SB. Let’s face it, the Saints just assured the team that knocked them out of the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years WON’T be able to do so this season. That’s a BIG psychological win IMO.

Cruize · 12-26-2020, 03:59 AM

Good player. 100 percent effort all the time. Big loss for the defense.

saintsfan1976 · 12-26-2020, 06:41 AM

Well we certainly didn’t get better with anzalone! I’d rather have PJ play that role than Alex.

ChrisXVI · 12-26-2020, 09:09 AM

We just aren’t meant to have great LB’s. That’s why Demario Davis has been such a blessing.

Saint in Aus · 12-26-2020, 09:10 AM

Gutting

Rugby Saint II · 12-26-2020, 01:40 PM

The defense gelled when Kwon got here. He allowed Davis to do his job without hesitation instead of playing slower to cover for Thor who is pure s***! Man, I feel bad for Kwon but now I'm worried about teams exploiting our LB'ers.

blackangold · 12-26-2020, 03:03 PM

People are over estimating Kwon...

PFF grades:
Kwon: 54
Alex: 65

Kwon consist at overrunning plays and missing tackles, our run D got worse and worse with him shooting backside gaps and not closing or overshooting and allowing cut backs. He consistently plays the run undisciplined. However, he is far better at coverage, but not as good as Davis.

I am not advocating for Alex to start... I’d like to see Baun play against CAR, but the true need for us it to get healthy on the D line again.

Edit:
Most of you seem to be short sighted... this D ranked 7th during our worst stretch (first 4 games). This defense has been solid when they don’t commit penalties and allow hidden yards. Since those first 4 games you could argue our next worse would be the last 3 games, all of which Kwon started and we allowed gashing runs... again not all him.

Those of you praising Kwon are the same ones calling for DAs head during the first 4 games of the season. Clueless then, clueless now.

Rell&Gold · 12-26-2020, 11:26 PM

I rather see Baun wont happen but I rather him In the game giving up a play

cmike · 12-27-2020, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think folks are pretty short sighted on Anzalone. Calling out 1 bad play that was a 50/50 zone split is dumb. Our D crumbled the last 3 weeks with Anzalone on the sidelines.

Losing Kwon isn’t that bad, it’s more important we get a healthy D line and MJ stops getting dumb penalties called on him because he gets caught out of position.

I think it would be unfair for us to create a Anzalone screwup mixtape. We could but what a waste of time. Just go back and watch the games.
I wouldn’t do that because I’m trying to focus on the positive for him.
He’s our only hope at this point.

FinSaint · 12-27-2020, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

In this game alone he allowed the man he was responsible for to run wide open in the endzone for a TD. Of course Malcolm was blamed for it. He’s just missing too many assignments.

I'm not sure which TD you're referring to, but on that one from practically the goalline - I'm pretty sure Irv Smith Jr was Davis' responsibility.

12-25-2020, 10:28 PM	#21
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles There is no sugar coating the fact that losing Kwon is a big blow on the surface. However, the only way forward I see is to buckle down with the roster as is and go forward. Much like the thread about signing Stills or another FA WR, there isn’t going to be a player available that can step in week 17 and help. If/when the D line gets healthy for the playoff push and the secondary is intact for the massive push a healthy D-line can provide AND the Offense can rack up 50 points like tonight....then I still like the chances of another SB. Let’s face it, the Saints just assured the team that knocked them out of the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years WON’T be able to do so this season. That’s a BIG psychological win IMO.
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12-26-2020, 03:59 AM	#22
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,294	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Good player. 100 percent effort all the time. Big loss for the defense.
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12-26-2020, 06:41 AM	#23
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Well we certainly didn’t get better with anzalone! I’d rather have PJ play that role than Alex. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-26-2020, 09:09 AM	#24
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles We just aren’t meant to have great LB’s. That’s why Demario Davis has been such a blessing. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

12-26-2020, 09:10 AM	#25
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12-26-2020, 01:40 PM	#26
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles The defense gelled when Kwon got here. He allowed Davis to do his job without hesitation instead of playing slower to cover for Thor who is pure s***! Man, I feel bad for Kwon but now I'm worried about teams exploiting our LB'ers.

12-26-2020, 03:03 PM	#27
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles People are over estimating Kwon... PFF grades: Kwon: 54 Alex: 65 Kwon consist at overrunning plays and missing tackles, our run D got worse and worse with him shooting backside gaps and not closing or overshooting and allowing cut backs. He consistently plays the run undisciplined. However, he is far better at coverage, but not as good as Davis. I am not advocating for Alex to start... I’d like to see Baun play against CAR, but the true need for us it to get healthy on the D line again. Edit: Most of you seem to be short sighted... this D ranked 7th during our worst stretch (first 4 games). This defense has been solid when they don’t commit penalties and allow hidden yards. Since those first 4 games you could argue our next worse would be the last 3 games, all of which Kwon started and we allowed gashing runs... again not all him. Those of you praising Kwon are the same ones calling for DAs head during the first 4 games of the season. Clueless then, clueless now. Budsdrinker, AsylumGuido and FinSaint like this.
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12-26-2020, 11:26 PM	#28
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles I rather see Baun wont happen but I rather him In the game giving up a play

12-27-2020, 05:07 AM	#29
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by blackangold I think folks are pretty short sighted on Anzalone. Calling out 1 bad play that was a 50/50 zone split is dumb. Our D crumbled the last 3 weeks with Anzalone on the sidelines. Losing Kwon isn’t that bad, it’s more important we get a healthy D line and MJ stops getting dumb penalties called on him because he gets caught out of position. I think it would be unfair for us to create a Anzalone screwup mixtape. We could but what a waste of time. Just go back and watch the games. I wouldn’t do that because I’m trying to focus on the positive for him. He’s our only hope at this point. K Major likes this.

12-27-2020, 05:28 AM	#30
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: Kwon Alexander Torn Achilles Originally Posted by cmike In this game alone he allowed the man he was responsible for to run wide open in the endzone for a TD. Of course Malcolm was blamed for it. He’s just missing too many assignments. I'm not sure which TD you're referring to, but on that one from practically the goalline - I'm pretty sure Irv Smith Jr was Davis' responsibility.