2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

AsylumGuido · 12-26-2021, 03:51 PM

saintsfan1976 · 12-27-2021, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ruiz is in year 2, however, he's starting to look like a reach in the 1st round. He's losing a lot of one on one battles ... all season long.

Wouldn't surprise me to see the Saints go for another O lineman in the 2022 draft. IMO we need better backups as well.

Outside of Ram and McCoy are 3 BIG question marks!

jeanpierre · 12-29-2021, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ruiz is in year 2, however, he's starting to look like a reach in the 1st round. He's losing a lot of one on one battles ... all season long.

Wouldn't surprise me to see the Saints go for another O lineman in the 2022 draft. IMO we need better backups as well.

Only backups I'd keep are Throckmartin, Clapp, and Young (if they don't move him to RT)...

Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working...

Have been critical of Armstead's availability vs cap number; funny, it's Ramczyk who's earned first team All Pro, but Armstead gets called All-Pro for a 2nd team recognition...

Armstead had gotten back to missing certain matchups, and with his age, it's time to let Ramczyk be the anchor at Left Tackle...

I'd only keep McCoy, the rest of the starters I'd move for sign and trade cap relief moves, taking Day 3 picks compensation...

It was a mistake to let Sanders go; great value on a WRz cap number; instead of depending on a high a draft pick, rather have a proven veteran opposite @CantGuardMike...

This pushes Ty Montgomery, No.1 and Harris into your 3, 4 and 5 slots, and the remaining talent to compete for that sixth spot...

TreQuan is garbage, let him walk; draft some new WR candidates with Day 2, Day 3 draft picks, likely two new faces with the veteran FA WRz...

K Major · 12-29-2021, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Only backups I'd keep are Throckmartin, Clapp, and Young (if they don't move him to RT)...

Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working...

Have been critical of Armstead's availability vs cap number; funny, it's Ramczyk who's earned first team All Pro, but Armstead gets called All-Pro for a 2nd team recognition...

Armstead had gotten back to missing certain matchups, and with his age, it's time to let Ramczyk be the anchor at Left Tackle...

I'd only keep McCoy, the rest of the starters I'd move for sign and trade cap relief moves, taking Day 3 picks compensation...

It was a mistake to let Sanders go; great value on a WRz cap number; instead of depending on a high a draft pick, rather have a proven veteran opposite @CantGuardMike...

This pushes Ty Montgomery, No.1 and Harris into your 3, 4 and 5 slots, and the remaining talent to compete for that sixth spot...

TreQuan is garbage, let him walk; draft some new WR candidates with Day 2, Day 3 draft picks, likely two new faces with the veteran FA WRz...

Agreed.

Saints must get that O-line together this off-season. Via Free agency and/or draft. Our backups have been suspect. Turnstyle play isn't going to cut it.

As for the WR "situation", I've been beating a dead horse on this subject for years now. I wanted Emmanuel on this team (before he signed with San Fran) 4 seasons ago. With Mike T out, we have no route runners on the roster. Guys aren't open because they lack the separation/route ability.

I'm still adamant about going after a young dawg in the 2022 draft ... early on. Last season I was a bit critical of Cincy (they went Free agency for a lineman) taking Chase with their 1st overall selection instead of an O-lineman, however, it's looking like WR was the right move. He's a dawg & helping them win games. Maybe the Saints do the same next season?

As far as Trequan goes, still inconsistent (year 3) & does his weekly disappearing act in meaningful games. Callaway has outshined him and is becoming a legit #3.

Yeah, I'm with you. Let someone else pay Smith next season.

ChrisXVI · 12-29-2021, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working...

Whaaat?! Gotta disagree with you there brother. Hurst is the least of our problems. $3 mil/year for a guy who can competently play four O-Line spots? That’s an excellent depth piece. Far and away better player than Throckmorton and Clapp.

Lord_Saint83 · 12-29-2021, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Only backups I'd keep are Throckmartin, Clapp, and Young (if they don't move him to RT)...

Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working...

Have been critical of Armstead's availability vs cap number; funny, it's Ramczyk who's earned first team All Pro, but Armstead gets called All-Pro for a 2nd team recognition...

Armstead had gotten back to missing certain matchups, and with his age, it's time to let Ramczyk be the anchor at Left Tackle...

I'd only keep McCoy, the rest of the starters I'd move for sign and trade cap relief moves, taking Day 3 picks compensation...

It was a mistake to let Sanders go; great value on a WRz cap number; instead of depending on a high a draft pick, rather have a proven veteran opposite @CantGuardMike...

This pushes Ty Montgomery, No.1 and Harris into your 3, 4 and 5 slots, and the remaining talent to compete for that sixth spot...

TreQuan is garbage, let him walk; draft some new WR candidates with Day 2, Day 3 draft picks, likely two new faces with the veteran FA WRz...

I agree with you JP on everything except with Hurst. Hurst is solid in my eyes. He won’t wow you but he’s steady Eddie. Throckmorton’s below average but better than Ruiz though but not by much. He misses a good bit too on blocks.

lee909 · 12-27-2021, 03:55 PM

Not relevant yet but I don't wa t Russell Wilson in a Sai to uniform next year. I think you'll be paying premium prices but a quickly diminishing product. I know he has partly checked out of Seattle by the looks of things but the one thing you always saw from him was a impressive deep ball and multiple times this season I have seen that ball slow up or be a couple of yards short on deeper throws. That arm is seemingly starting to decline already, either that or he just doesn't care in Seattlr anymore.

K Major · 12-27-2021, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Not relevant yet but I don't wa t Russell Wilson in a Sai to uniform next year. I think you'll be paying premium prices but a quickly diminishing product. I know he has partly checked out of Seattle by the looks of things but the one thing you always saw from him was a impressive deep ball and multiple times this season I have seen that ball slow up or be a couple of yards short on deeper throws. That arm is seemingly starting to decline already, either that or he just doesn't care in Seattlr anymore.

Right. + Seattle will want serious draft capital & a legit starter for Russ.

I'd target Jameis W in 2022, Ian B & go from there ...

ChrisXVI · 12-27-2021, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Right. + Seattle will want serious draft capital & a legit starter for Russ.

I'd target Jameis W in 2022, Ian B & go from there ...

I’m with you 100%. We can get this offense humming again real quick. Sign a pass-catching TE in free agency and draft a top-tier WR.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2021, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I’m with you 100%. We can get this offense humming again real quick. Sign a pass-catching TE in free agency and draft a top-tier WR.

Must address O line. Peat has to be gone. Armstead, bargain contract or gone. Ruiz - can he fare better with a solid group around him or did we draft a backup center in round 1?

12-26-2021, 03:51 PM	#1
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12-27-2021, 01:56 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,026 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Ruiz is in year 2, however, he's starting to look like a reach in the 1st round. He's losing a lot of one on one battles ... all season long. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Saints go for another O lineman in the 2022 draft. IMO we need better backups as well. Outside of Ram and McCoy are 3 BIG question marks!

12-29-2021, 10:10 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Ruiz is in year 2, however, he's starting to look like a reach in the 1st round. He's losing a lot of one on one battles ... all season long. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Saints go for another O lineman in the 2022 draft. IMO we need better backups as well. Only backups I'd keep are Throckmartin, Clapp, and Young (if they don't move him to RT)... Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working... Have been critical of Armstead's availability vs cap number; funny, it's Ramczyk who's earned first team All Pro, but Armstead gets called All-Pro for a 2nd team recognition... Armstead had gotten back to missing certain matchups, and with his age, it's time to let Ramczyk be the anchor at Left Tackle... I'd only keep McCoy, the rest of the starters I'd move for sign and trade cap relief moves, taking Day 3 picks compensation... It was a mistake to let Sanders go; great value on a WRz cap number; instead of depending on a high a draft pick, rather have a proven veteran opposite @CantGuardMike... This pushes Ty Montgomery, No.1 and Harris into your 3, 4 and 5 slots, and the remaining talent to compete for that sixth spot... TreQuan is garbage, let him walk; draft some new WR candidates with Day 2, Day 3 draft picks, likely two new faces with the veteran FA WRz...
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12-29-2021, 10:29 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Only backups I'd keep are Throckmartin, Clapp, and Young (if they don't move him to RT)... Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working... Have been critical of Armstead's availability vs cap number; funny, it's Ramczyk who's earned first team All Pro, but Armstead gets called All-Pro for a 2nd team recognition... Armstead had gotten back to missing certain matchups, and with his age, it's time to let Ramczyk be the anchor at Left Tackle... I'd only keep McCoy, the rest of the starters I'd move for sign and trade cap relief moves, taking Day 3 picks compensation... It was a mistake to let Sanders go; great value on a WRz cap number; instead of depending on a high a draft pick, rather have a proven veteran opposite @CantGuardMike... This pushes Ty Montgomery, No.1 and Harris into your 3, 4 and 5 slots, and the remaining talent to compete for that sixth spot... TreQuan is garbage, let him walk; draft some new WR candidates with Day 2, Day 3 draft picks, likely two new faces with the veteran FA WRz... Agreed. Saints must get that O-line together this off-season. Via Free agency and/or draft. Our backups have been suspect. Turnstyle play isn't going to cut it. As for the WR "situation", I've been beating a dead horse on this subject for years now. I wanted Emmanuel on this team (before he signed with San Fran) 4 seasons ago. With Mike T out, we have no route runners on the roster. Guys aren't open because they lack the separation/route ability. I'm still adamant about going after a young dawg in the 2022 draft ... early on. Last season I was a bit critical of Cincy (they went Free agency for a lineman) taking Chase with their 1st overall selection instead of an O-lineman, however, it's looking like WR was the right move. He's a dawg & helping them win games. Maybe the Saints do the same next season? As far as Trequan goes, still inconsistent (year 3) & does his weekly disappearing act in meaningful games. Callaway has outshined him and is becoming a legit #3. Yeah, I'm with you. Let someone else pay Smith next season.

12-29-2021, 10:33 AM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working... Whaaat?! Gotta disagree with you there brother. Hurst is the least of our problems. $3 mil/year for a guy who can competently play four O-Line spots? That’s an excellent depth piece. Far and away better player than Throckmorton and Clapp.

12-29-2021, 02:14 PM	#6
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Only backups I'd keep are Throckmartin, Clapp, and Young (if they don't move him to RT)... Hurst is garbage - can't get movement on the inside, can defend the edge, and for FA money? No this isn't working... Have been critical of Armstead's availability vs cap number; funny, it's Ramczyk who's earned first team All Pro, but Armstead gets called All-Pro for a 2nd team recognition... Armstead had gotten back to missing certain matchups, and with his age, it's time to let Ramczyk be the anchor at Left Tackle... I'd only keep McCoy, the rest of the starters I'd move for sign and trade cap relief moves, taking Day 3 picks compensation... It was a mistake to let Sanders go; great value on a WRz cap number; instead of depending on a high a draft pick, rather have a proven veteran opposite @CantGuardMike... This pushes Ty Montgomery, No.1 and Harris into your 3, 4 and 5 slots, and the remaining talent to compete for that sixth spot... TreQuan is garbage, let him walk; draft some new WR candidates with Day 2, Day 3 draft picks, likely two new faces with the veteran FA WRz... I agree with you JP on everything except with Hurst. Hurst is solid in my eyes. He won’t wow you but he’s steady Eddie. Throckmorton’s below average but better than Ruiz though but not by much. He misses a good bit too on blocks.

12-27-2021, 03:55 PM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Not relevant yet but I don't wa t Russell Wilson in a Sai to uniform next year. I think you'll be paying premium prices but a quickly diminishing product. I know he has partly checked out of Seattle by the looks of things but the one thing you always saw from him was a impressive deep ball and multiple times this season I have seen that ball slow up or be a couple of yards short on deeper throws. That arm is seemingly starting to decline already, either that or he just doesn't care in Seattlr anymore.
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12-27-2021, 04:39 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 Not relevant yet but I don't wa t Russell Wilson in a Sai to uniform next year. I think you'll be paying premium prices but a quickly diminishing product. I know he has partly checked out of Seattle by the looks of things but the one thing you always saw from him was a impressive deep ball and multiple times this season I have seen that ball slow up or be a couple of yards short on deeper throws. That arm is seemingly starting to decline already, either that or he just doesn't care in Seattlr anymore. Right. + Seattle will want serious draft capital & a legit starter for Russ. I'd target Jameis W in 2022, Ian B & go from there ...

12-27-2021, 05:44 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Right. + Seattle will want serious draft capital & a legit starter for Russ. I'd target Jameis W in 2022, Ian B & go from there ... I’m with you 100%. We can get this offense humming again real quick. Sign a pass-catching TE in free agency and draft a top-tier WR.

12-28-2021, 12:02 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,026 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I’m with you 100%. We can get this offense humming again real quick. Sign a pass-catching TE in free agency and draft a top-tier WR. Must address O line. Peat has to be gone. Armstead, bargain contract or gone. Ruiz - can he fare better with a solid group around him or did we draft a backup center in round 1?