2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

AsylumGuido · 11-02-2021, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Hard pass on DeSean Jackson. Prima donna to the core. I'd rather have Antonio Brown.

Kind of like deciding between gonorrhea and syphilis.

jeanpierre · 11-02-2021, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I haven't been able to watch all of the games, JP. Has Callaway been double teamed or dropping catchable footballs? Something else?

Found he gets muscled in one-on-ones a little too much for my liking for a WRx1; MT will physically, within the rules, separate from the defender...

Callway, not so much...

jeanpierre · 11-02-2021, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Kind of like deciding between gonorrhea and syphilis.

Now that's f*cking funny right d'ere...

and true...

jeanpierre · 11-02-2021, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We did more than most. Here's the list of all the trades down the stretch. Final week trades are extremely rare. Always have been. The logistics involved with the caps and such are very restrictive.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...27688215986180

While I'd like to have had Brandin Cooks, compared to other years, I really like what the Saints FO did in Free Agency and Trades this cycle - Currently a B+...

Not addressing the Guards (Ruiz and Peat) and not doing something to limit the damage Peat's contract is doing is an issue...

Like that they stood pat with Adebo and let some quality depth at CB fall to them, so that proved shrewed...

Also, things fell for them with Stills coming available to complement Harris at the WRz spot (as I admitted, wanted Brandin Cooks back); another stealth move...

Now, what could still hurt them was putting too much faith in Tre'Quan; also, maybe a little too much patience as Nick Vannett has been as unavailable as Tre'Quan...

Think they maybe should've brought in a proven blocking TE when they were available late in PreSeason, Week One...

jnormand · 11-02-2021, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

While I'd like to have had Brandin Cooks, compared to other years, I really like what the Saints FO did in Free Agency and Trades this cycle - Currently a B+...

Not addressing the Guards (Ruiz and Peat) and not doing something to limit the damage Peat's contract is doing is an issue...

Like that they stood pat with Adebo and let some quality depth at CB fall to them, so that proved shrewed...

Also, things fell for them with Stills coming available to complement Harris at the WRz spot (as I admitted, wanted Brandin Cooks back); another stealth move...

Now, what could still hurt them was putting too much faith in Tre'Quan; also, maybe a little too much patience as Nick Vannett has been as unavailable as Tre'Quan...

Think they maybe should've brought in a proven blocking TE when they were available late in PreSeason, Week One...

Stills hasn't really done much though. I agree with most points. But I can't stand Cooks and was glad he left. The only thing I'd like if we had Cooks is I'd say "Let's go Brandon!" All. The. Time. Lol.

jeanpierre · 11-02-2021, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Stills hasn't really done much though. I agree with most points. But I can't stand Cooks and was glad he left. The only thing I'd like if we had Cooks is I'd say "Let's go Brandon!" All. The. Time. Lol.

Look I get a lot of Cook's end of tenure, exit was really, really bad optics; reminded of Reggie Bush when MI was drafted...

But to be fair, let's remember this, Brandin Cooks was featured early and often when he first came aboard; Sean really liked showing off his new toy added to his offense...

Cooks was an absolute beast that was an everydown, home-run threat that just tore the tops off of defenses and made all but the elite defenses sleepless...

And as his contract year played out, while still consistently open, he was the third option on many play calls, thus limiting his stats in a contract year...

The 23yo understandably grew frustrated, especially when Sean wouldn't explain in one-on-ones talks, what was the reasoning for his shift...

If y'all's memory is accurate, fair, prior to that sh*t show contract year, Cooks had often been lauded as a positive force in the locker room, community, and on the field...

Anyways, before judging him, factor all that perspective into y'all calculus; you may still disagree, but it'd be fair to consider those factors...

K Major · 11-03-2021, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1455636721278857225

This is pretty much our last option.

Don't think he'll clear waivers.

The LV Raiders could pick him up since they've already released Ruggs.

SmashMouth · 11-03-2021, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Don't think he'll clear waivers.

The LV Raiders could pick him up since they've already released Ruggs.

Tampon picked up former LSU Cyril Grayson whom the Saints cut a while back last year.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-03-2021, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Don't think he'll clear waivers.

The LV Raiders could pick him up since they've already released Ruggs.

Jackson won't be subject to waivers. He'll be a free agent when released.

SFIAH

K Major · 11-03-2021, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Jackson won't be subject to waivers. He'll be a free agent when released.

SFIAH

You are correct. Thanks for the clarification. The keyword is "released" here. DJ can sign anywhere he chooses but does he want to play for NO with a backup QB?

I could see him staying closer to home, sign with the Raiders (Ruggs released) & catch passes from a gunslinger but what do I know.

Edit - NBC Sports use the language "released" but ESPN, NFL says "waived". If waived, he would have to clear waivers.

Which one is it?

11-02-2021, 06:15 PM	#1051
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by neugey Hard pass on DeSean Jackson. Prima donna to the core. I'd rather have Antonio Brown. Kind of like deciding between gonorrhea and syphilis. neugey, SmashMouth, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

11-02-2021, 08:46 PM	#1052
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by iceshack149 I haven't been able to watch all of the games, JP. Has Callaway been double teamed or dropping catchable footballs? Something else? Found he gets muscled in one-on-ones a little too much for my liking for a WRx1; MT will physically, within the rules, separate from the defender... Callway, not so much... iceshack149 and Boston Saint like this.

11-02-2021, 08:47 PM	#1053
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Kind of like deciding between gonorrhea and syphilis. Now that's f*cking funny right d'ere... and true... Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

11-02-2021, 08:56 PM	#1054
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We did more than most. Here's the list of all the trades down the stretch. Final week trades are extremely rare. Always have been. The logistics involved with the caps and such are very restrictive. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...27688215986180 While I'd like to have had Brandin Cooks, compared to other years, I really like what the Saints FO did in Free Agency and Trades this cycle - Currently a B+... Not addressing the Guards (Ruiz and Peat) and not doing something to limit the damage Peat's contract is doing is an issue... Like that they stood pat with Adebo and let some quality depth at CB fall to them, so that proved shrewed... Also, things fell for them with Stills coming available to complement Harris at the WRz spot (as I admitted, wanted Brandin Cooks back); another stealth move... Now, what could still hurt them was putting too much faith in Tre'Quan; also, maybe a little too much patience as Nick Vannett has been as unavailable as Tre'Quan... Think they maybe should've brought in a proven blocking TE when they were available late in PreSeason, Week One...
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11-02-2021, 09:06 PM	#1055
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre While I'd like to have had Brandin Cooks, compared to other years, I really like what the Saints FO did in Free Agency and Trades this cycle - Currently a B+... Not addressing the Guards (Ruiz and Peat) and not doing something to limit the damage Peat's contract is doing is an issue... Like that they stood pat with Adebo and let some quality depth at CB fall to them, so that proved shrewed... Also, things fell for them with Stills coming available to complement Harris at the WRz spot (as I admitted, wanted Brandin Cooks back); another stealth move... Now, what could still hurt them was putting too much faith in Tre'Quan; also, maybe a little too much patience as Nick Vannett has been as unavailable as Tre'Quan... Think they maybe should've brought in a proven blocking TE when they were available late in PreSeason, Week One... Stills hasn't really done much though. I agree with most points. But I can't stand Cooks and was glad he left. The only thing I'd like if we had Cooks is I'd say "Let's go Brandon!" All. The. Time. Lol. iceshack149, jeanpierre and Boston Saint like this.

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11-02-2021, 11:41 PM	#1056
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jnormand Stills hasn't really done much though. I agree with most points. But I can't stand Cooks and was glad he left. The only thing I'd like if we had Cooks is I'd say "Let's go Brandon!" All. The. Time. Lol. Look I get a lot of Cook's end of tenure, exit was really, really bad optics; reminded of Reggie Bush when MI was drafted... But to be fair, let's remember this, Brandin Cooks was featured early and often when he first came aboard; Sean really liked showing off his new toy added to his offense... Cooks was an absolute beast that was an everydown, home-run threat that just tore the tops off of defenses and made all but the elite defenses sleepless... And as his contract year played out, while still consistently open, he was the third option on many play calls, thus limiting his stats in a contract year... The 23yo understandably grew frustrated, especially when Sean wouldn't explain in one-on-ones talks, what was the reasoning for his shift... If y'all's memory is accurate, fair, prior to that sh*t show contract year, Cooks had often been lauded as a positive force in the locker room, community, and on the field... Anyways, before judging him, factor all that perspective into y'all calculus; you may still disagree, but it'd be fair to consider those factors... SmashMouth likes this.
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11-03-2021, 09:12 AM	#1057
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1455636721278857225 This is pretty much our last option. Don't think he'll clear waivers. The LV Raiders could pick him up since they've already released Ruggs.

11-03-2021, 09:18 AM	#1058
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Don't think he'll clear waivers. The LV Raiders could pick him up since they've already released Ruggs. Tampon picked up former LSU Cyril Grayson whom the Saints cut a while back last year. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

11-03-2021, 11:06 AM	#1059
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Don't think he'll clear waivers. The LV Raiders could pick him up since they've already released Ruggs. Jackson won't be subject to waivers. He'll be a free agent when released. SFIAH

11-03-2021, 11:22 AM	#1060
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Jackson won't be subject to waivers. He'll be a free agent when released. SFIAH You are correct. Thanks for the clarification. The keyword is "released" here. DJ can sign anywhere he chooses but does he want to play for NO with a backup QB? I could see him staying closer to home, sign with the Raiders (Ruggs released) & catch passes from a gunslinger but what do I know. Edit - NBC Sports use the language "released" but ESPN, NFL says "waived". If waived, he would have to clear waivers. Which one is it?