2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 01-19-2021, 02:10 PM

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lee909 · 01-19-2021, 02:45 PM

That's alot of depth to be losing with little space to bring any back

K Major · 01-19-2021, 03:23 PM

Here is my short list of guys who can walk in 2021 FA ..

Anzalone
P.J. Williams
Jared Cook
Craig Robertson
Ty Montgomery
Bennie Fowler
Ken Crawley
Jordan Humphrey

I'd like to somehow retain Sheldon Rankins on the cheap.

On the fence with Trey Hendrickson. Tread carefully throwing the bank on a over performing player in a contract year.

jeanpierre · 01-20-2021, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Here is my short list of guys who can walk in 2021 FA ..

Anzalone
P.J. Williams
Jared Cook
Craig Robertson
Ty Montgomery
Bennie Fowler
Ken Crawley
Jordan Humphrey

I'd like to somehow retain Sheldon Rankins on the cheap.

On the fence with Trey Hendrickson. Tread carefully throwing the bank on a over performing player in a contract year.

Get folks bashing on him at times, but that's a myopic view - he plays a number of positions for us and while not an elite player at those positions, overall he does a solid job as a reserve...

vpheughan · 01-20-2021, 07:53 AM

Don't see Morstead on any of the cut lists. His replacement is in the building

iceshack149 · 01-20-2021, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Don't see Morstead on any of the cut lists. His replacement is in the building

Yep. The last two players from the Saints Superbowl win will no longer be with the team next season.

jeanpierre · 01-22-2021, 10:25 AM

2021 New Orleans Saints Rebuild - Quarterback

2021 New Orleans Saints are, as of the time of composing this blog, ($95,050,739) over the anticipated salary cap, per Over The Cap | 2021 New Orleans Saints; and that's before the first snap of the season...

Well there's obviously a lot of work to be done, and it'll start with getting this team under the cap to be compliant with the NFL Salary Cap...

The obvious elephant is the room is will Drew Brees be with this team in 2021? From all indications at this point, that answer would seem to be No. But suppose he wants another geaux? Should we?

Brees is the most accomplished passer in NFL history, but his value is just that - history.

Devout fans don't won't to hear about air yards, but the reality is that good defenses stack up front forcing Brees to throw downfield of 15 air yards or more - he simply can't do it for 16-plus games...

And if can't play at that level any more for a full season, is it really wise to continue to pay him that much? No. And so it's time to move on from the greatest passer in NFL Regular Season history...

Designating Brees with a post-June 1st release will yield a salary cap savings of $25M, with a dead cap number of $11,150,000 - ($70,050,739)

That leaves Taysom Hill as the only other Quarterback on the Saints roster under contract; and with a cap number of $16,159,000; cutting Taysom irregardless of June 1 will only save $5M against the cap...

To get more cap relief, Taysom Hill would have to be traded and, irregardless of 1st June, that savings would be $12,159,000, but then you're left with no QB on the roster...

So even if you're somehow able to trade Taysom Hill AND his $16M+ contract to a team, you're still nearly $58M above the cap and you've got no QB...

Is Jameis Winston gonna play for another $1.1 M? Doubtful. Is he worth big money? We just saw a 43yo QB take Jameis former team to at least the Conference Championship Game...

And after five plus seasons in the league, along with character issues that continue to come up on and off the field, there's just no way you can make a serious contractual commitment...

So there's gonna need to be some more positions addressed in this inevitable rebuild, irregardless if you believe, or do not believe, Taysom is an NFL QB...

Likely scenario. Taysom needs a full season to be evaluated on his merits. It'll be tough because of the inevitable comparisons to Brees' career, which is unfair, but the reality Taysom will have to cope...

Believe Sean Payton when he says Taysom is an NFL QB and that he will roll with him in 2021 and that the Saints will acquire a more mobile QB, similar to Taysom's style of play...

K Major · 01-22-2021, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Believe Sean Payton when he says Taysom is an NFL QB and that he will roll with him in 2021 and that the Saints will acquire a more mobile QB, similar to Taysom's style of play...

SP says a lot but can we expect a sudden change with Hill and all of the fumbling at age 31? Turnovers is a recipe for an L.

Taysom is a awesome gadget guy.

My hope is that we can retain Winston back on the "cheap". TH needs all the competition he can get.

ChrisXVI · 01-22-2021, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Get folks bashing on him at times, but that's a myopic view - he plays a number of positions for us and while not an elite player at those positions, overall he does a solid job as a reserve...

I was just thinking about the fact that if/when Marcus Williams leaves in FA I wouldn’t mind seeing what PJ can do full-time at FS.

Rsanders24 · 01-22-2021, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Get folks bashing on him at times, but that's a myopic view - he plays a number of positions for us and while not an elite player at those positions, overall he does a solid job as a reserve...

+1...I’ve been saying this for years. I mentioned in a post about 2 years ago that I would like to see how PJ would be at safety. PJ is very versatile and Payton speaks highly of his football knowledge for the entire secondary. He is a long corner with good acceleration but lacks top speed. He is by far one of the best tackling and hardest hitting DBs we have. Forces a good amount of turnovers as well.

I definitely would mind having him back. He would be a lot cheaper and add depth at CB and Safety.

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01-19-2021, 02:45 PM	#52
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints That's alot of depth to be losing with little space to bring any back

01-19-2021, 03:23 PM	#53
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Here is my short list of guys who can walk in 2021 FA .. Anzalone P.J. Williams Jared Cook Craig Robertson Ty Montgomery Bennie Fowler Ken Crawley Jordan Humphrey I'd like to somehow retain Sheldon Rankins on the cheap. On the fence with Trey Hendrickson. Tread carefully throwing the bank on a over performing player in a contract year. Rugby Saint II and gosaints1 like this.

01-20-2021, 04:24 AM	#54
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Here is my short list of guys who can walk in 2021 FA .. Anzalone P.J. Williams Jared Cook Craig Robertson Ty Montgomery Bennie Fowler Ken Crawley Jordan Humphrey I'd like to somehow retain Sheldon Rankins on the cheap. On the fence with Trey Hendrickson. Tread carefully throwing the bank on a over performing player in a contract year. Get folks bashing on him at times, but that's a myopic view - he plays a number of positions for us and while not an elite player at those positions, overall he does a solid job as a reserve... Rsanders24 and ChrisXVI like this.

01-20-2021, 07:53 AM	#55
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Don't see Morstead on any of the cut lists. His replacement is in the building
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01-20-2021, 11:07 PM	#56
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by vpheughan Don't see Morstead on any of the cut lists. His replacement is in the building Yep. The last two players from the Saints Superbowl win will no longer be with the team next season.

01-22-2021, 10:25 AM	#57
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints 2021 New Orleans Saints Rebuild - Quarterback 2021 New Orleans Saints are, as of the time of composing this blog, ($95,050,739) over the anticipated salary cap, per Over The Cap \| 2021 New Orleans Saints; and that's before the first snap of the season... Well there's obviously a lot of work to be done, and it'll start with getting this team under the cap to be compliant with the NFL Salary Cap... The obvious elephant is the room is will Drew Brees be with this team in 2021? From all indications at this point, that answer would seem to be No. But suppose he wants another geaux? Should we? Brees is the most accomplished passer in NFL history, but his value is just that - history. Devout fans don't won't to hear about air yards, but the reality is that good defenses stack up front forcing Brees to throw downfield of 15 air yards or more - he simply can't do it for 16-plus games... And if can't play at that level any more for a full season, is it really wise to continue to pay him that much? No. And so it's time to move on from the greatest passer in NFL Regular Season history... Designating Brees with a post-June 1st release will yield a salary cap savings of $25M, with a dead cap number of $11,150,000 - ($70,050,739) That leaves Taysom Hill as the only other Quarterback on the Saints roster under contract; and with a cap number of $16,159,000; cutting Taysom irregardless of June 1 will only save $5M against the cap... To get more cap relief, Taysom Hill would have to be traded and, irregardless of 1st June, that savings would be $12,159,000, but then you're left with no QB on the roster... So even if you're somehow able to trade Taysom Hill AND his $16M+ contract to a team, you're still nearly $58M above the cap and you've got no QB... Is Jameis Winston gonna play for another $1.1 M? Doubtful. Is he worth big money? We just saw a 43yo QB take Jameis former team to at least the Conference Championship Game... And after five plus seasons in the league, along with character issues that continue to come up on and off the field, there's just no way you can make a serious contractual commitment... So there's gonna need to be some more positions addressed in this inevitable rebuild, irregardless if you believe, or do not believe, Taysom is an NFL QB... Likely scenario. Taysom needs a full season to be evaluated on his merits. It'll be tough because of the inevitable comparisons to Brees' career, which is unfair, but the reality Taysom will have to cope... Believe Sean Payton when he says Taysom is an NFL QB and that he will roll with him in 2021 and that the Saints will acquire a more mobile QB, similar to Taysom's style of play...
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01-22-2021, 11:00 AM	#58
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Believe Sean Payton when he says Taysom is an NFL QB and that he will roll with him in 2021 and that the Saints will acquire a more mobile QB, similar to Taysom's style of play... SP says a lot but can we expect a sudden change with Hill and all of the fumbling at age 31? Turnovers is a recipe for an L. Taysom is a awesome gadget guy. My hope is that we can retain Winston back on the "cheap". TH needs all the competition he can get. Rsanders24, ChrisXVI and gosaints1 like this.

01-22-2021, 11:17 AM	#59
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Get folks bashing on him at times, but that's a myopic view - he plays a number of positions for us and while not an elite player at those positions, overall he does a solid job as a reserve... I was just thinking about the fact that if/when Marcus Williams leaves in FA I wouldn’t mind seeing what PJ can do full-time at FS. Rsanders24 likes this.

01-22-2021, 12:04 PM	#60
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Get folks bashing on him at times, but that's a myopic view - he plays a number of positions for us and while not an elite player at those positions, overall he does a solid job as a reserve... +1...I’ve been saying this for years. I mentioned in a post about 2 years ago that I would like to see how PJ would be at safety. PJ is very versatile and Payton speaks highly of his football knowledge for the entire secondary. He is a long corner with good acceleration but lacks top speed. He is by far one of the best tackling and hardest hitting DBs we have. Forces a good amount of turnovers as well. I definitely would mind having him back. He would be a lot cheaper and add depth at CB and Safety. MarchingOn likes this.